• Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 hours ago

    They arent in power yet and i am already so sick of them. Thanks to them the AfD will be at ocer 30% next time

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      4 hours ago

      This was actually said by Nancy Faeser, who is still an acting minister of the parting government. Her party (SPD) will be part of the new government coalition, but her ministry (internal affairs) will go to the CSU. In my opinion it’s even worse that she, as a SPD politician said that rather than some C*U politician, because for them it wouldn’t be anything new.

      • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        4 hours ago

        That Feaser even still is part of the SPD is beyond me. But knowing that SPD doesnt have any balls and just wants to stay in any position of power no matter what, explains it. Doesnt excuse it, but explains it.

        I hope they dont make weed illegal again because like i said 3 years ago, god i will need it to get threw the next few years

  • huppakee@lemm.ee
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    17 hours ago

    I’m not sure how I feel abour the parties that won the election now executing the plans of the losing party, in order to prevent that party from winning an election next time.

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      14 hours ago

      I am with you, I think it’s a dumb idea. I believe we will suffer from this when the extreme right gains more political ground because of it.

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        14 hours ago

        But hasnt this always been done? One example that comes to my mind, is CDU deciding to phase out atomic reactors or legalizing gay marriage because of the pressure from the greens.

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          13 hours ago

          It was done, because they could win elections with it, as those policies were genuinly popular and still mostly are. After Fukushima the greens were winning state elections against the CDU. There are also a fairly high number of gay conservative politicans in Germany. Jens Spahn and Alice Weidel come to mind.

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            6 minutes ago

            Yes, but doesn’t that match exactly to what’s happening now? Most Germans agree that migration should be reduced. The CDU is loosing state elections against the AFD. So they have to react.

            I’m not trying to argue it’s the right thing to do, or that I personally support it. Just find the parallels interesting

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      6 hours ago

      It’s a political necessity really. If you keep denying the losing party any influence, they’ll grow bigger.

      The Danish political system has very successfully stopped the far right parties by acknowledging their concerns and bringing some but not all of their policies into the centrist parties. Honestly this is probably much better than the alternative of the far right parties getting more and more influence.

      EDIT: If you’re not Danish and not familiar with our (very successful, I might add) democratic political system, you might not understand, but it has worked quite effectively here. Keep in mind the Danish political leaning is quite leftist already, so even some of our “right-wing” parties are still quite left wing all things considered.

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        6 hours ago

        You don’t win elections by accepting the framing of issues by fascists. You can’t do Nazi-light, people will just want to vote for the real thing anyway.

        You need to point out that the economic hardships people are experiencing are due to billionaires hoarding wealth globally, not some poor immigrant trying to feed their family.

      • SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de
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        6 hours ago

        yeah, that is going really well /s – same in Germany - when the established parties started integrating fascist rhetoric/actions into theirs, the fascist party went from 10 to 20 percent in elections.

        You cannot sway the dumb voters who fall for fascist rhetoric, by going “yes, the fascists are right, but …” because if the fascists are right, why change? Anything after “but” will be discarded by voters. All they heard was you agreeing with them.

        Instead say “The fascists are wrong, because …” and then list one of the many, many reasons, ideally you also list ones applicable to the situation at hand.