We are facing the end of 'the West'. Some of our best science shows the US empire is following the collapse-path of the USSR - but this is also the precursor to the emergence of a new life-cycle for civilisation.
Oh, we’ve long outdone Chernobyl. Industrial pollution, oil spills, microplastics, regular plastics, PFAS, overfishing, habitat destruction… The modern ecological disaster caused by the US alone, before you even add in the rest of the planet, is so unfathomably large in scale that honestly it doesn’t even warrant a comparison to Chernobyl.
Chernobyl was such a uniquely singularly destructive event that also contributed to financially cracking the USSR - Russia is still spending enormous amounts of money on it to this day. The nuclear incidents in US history and many other energy related disasters were terrible and have had major consequences, but Chernobyl, again as a singular event, is without parallel.
The US releases more radiation entirely uncontrolled over every five year period than the Chernobyl event.
Chernobyl is over exaggerated. Coal power has done more damage, and continues to do more damage than the totality of all nuclear incidents, and it does so every 7 years.
USSR was forced to take the Chernobyl seriously, built the sarcophagus, and lost a lot of money and reputation.
The US lost the goodwill by… having voted in the biggest disaster so far. Not because of any crysis manifested as of yet, but they will come very soon.
The death and destruction you speak of doesn’t move almost anybody.
Ask the 20-50x more cancer patients downwind (up to 50 miles) from any coal mine or plant what they think of a few thousand dead.
More people have died from coal related radiation related cancers than lived in the entirety of pripyat.
Nuclear, by the numbers is the safest power source next to solar. The rmb reactors of Chernobyl, per mWh, are safer than any implementation of coal that has ever existed or will ever exist.
Dude I explicitly acknowledged the US has had energy disasters - I said they were “terrible” and resulted in “major consequences.” Don’t pull this bullshit
I acknowledged that in the other comment chain too. Get over yourself. The US has done terrible things and currently does terrible things that have killed people and still kill people. What the fuck do you want from me? We’re talking about Chernobyl, I’m not saying America has not fucked up. My original comment was a joke for fuck’s sake
You sound like one of those defensive, butthurt lemmygrad users who can’t bear to see the USSR/russia talked ill of and always have to “BUT THE US”
No, your argument was Chernobyl was uniquely awful. It wasn’t. By any measure you want coal plants outdo Chernobyl on a regular basis during their regular operation.
What do I want from you? To stop saying stupid shit and then defend said stupid shit into the grave because you can’t ever be wrong.
Oh, we’ve long outdone Chernobyl. Industrial pollution, oil spills, microplastics, regular plastics, PFAS, overfishing, habitat destruction… The modern ecological disaster caused by the US alone, before you even add in the rest of the planet, is so unfathomably large in scale that honestly it doesn’t even warrant a comparison to Chernobyl.
Chernobyl was such a uniquely singularly destructive event that also contributed to financially cracking the USSR - Russia is still spending enormous amounts of money on it to this day. The nuclear incidents in US history and many other energy related disasters were terrible and have had major consequences, but Chernobyl, again as a singular event, is without parallel.
The US releases more radiation entirely uncontrolled over every five year period than the Chernobyl event.
Chernobyl is over exaggerated. Coal power has done more damage, and continues to do more damage than the totality of all nuclear incidents, and it does so every 7 years.
Yes, but you are missing the point.
USSR was forced to take the Chernobyl seriously, built the sarcophagus, and lost a lot of money and reputation.
The US lost the goodwill by… having voted in the biggest disaster so far. Not because of any crysis manifested as of yet, but they will come very soon.
The death and destruction you speak of doesn’t move almost anybody.
Ask the dead from Pripyat what their opinion on that is
Ask the 20-50x more cancer patients downwind (up to 50 miles) from any coal mine or plant what they think of a few thousand dead.
More people have died from coal related radiation related cancers than lived in the entirety of pripyat.
Nuclear, by the numbers is the safest power source next to solar. The rmb reactors of Chernobyl, per mWh, are safer than any implementation of coal that has ever existed or will ever exist.
Dude I explicitly acknowledged the US has had energy disasters - I said they were “terrible” and resulted in “major consequences.” Don’t pull this bullshit
I’m not talking about disasters, that’s just coal operation. Nominal operation.
I acknowledged that in the other comment chain too. Get over yourself. The US has done terrible things and currently does terrible things that have killed people and still kill people. What the fuck do you want from me? We’re talking about Chernobyl, I’m not saying America has not fucked up. My original comment was a joke for fuck’s sake
You sound like one of those defensive, butthurt lemmygrad users who can’t bear to see the USSR/russia talked ill of and always have to “BUT THE US”
No, your argument was Chernobyl was uniquely awful. It wasn’t. By any measure you want coal plants outdo Chernobyl on a regular basis during their regular operation.
What do I want from you? To stop saying stupid shit and then defend said stupid shit into the grave because you can’t ever be wrong.