• Zenith@lemm.ee
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    22 hours ago

    Where can Americans even go? It’s not like immigrating is easy, most of us can’t afford it and Western Europe is no guarantee considering vlad is breathing down their neck

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      Plenty of places for Americans to go, but they have to give up some of their luxuries and entitlement.

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      21 hours ago

      If you face:

      • danger of torture
      • risk to your life
      • risk of cruel and unusual treatment or punishment

      https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/asylum/in-canada/eligibility.html

      If you enter Canada from the U.S.
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      Your claim may not be eligible if you entered Canada from the U.S.:

      • at an official land border crossing
        or
      • anywhere along the border, including rivers, lakes and other waterways, and made a refugee claim less than 14 days after the day that you entered
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        Those are some pretty interesting conditions. Sounds like in order to make this work, you shouldn’t enter through an official land border crossing. Instead, you should enter through other means (plane, ship, rocket), but you should also just chill out as a tourist for two weeks before making a refugee claim. Makes me wonder what’s the rationale behind this.

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          Yeah, I don’t quite get it myself. The only thing I can think of is that it might be designed for American citizens living abroad, but I can’t quite figure out why there either.

          Maybe it’s just being onerous enough to discourage all but the most serious attempts.

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        Canada and some European countries have accepted refugees from the US but from what I’ve read it’s incredibly rate and requires and extraordinary amount of proof that your life is under threat and you have no other choice than to move to those countries.

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          Occasionally, I watch some queer videos on YT, just to see how they see the world from their perspective. Recently, the tone has shifted and some are even advising other people to go back into the closet. Especially gender minorities appear to be afraid of what’s going on these days. Maybe someone in that category could convincingly claim that their life is in danger. I wonder if it also applies to gay people.

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          I’d imagine that’s because of the STCA, but there seems to be a loophole where it doesn’t apply if you enter via water and don’t claim refugee status before 14 days.

          If I were really determined, I’d at least ask an immigration lawyer about it, and then I’d plan on taking a 2 week camping trip in Canada when I thought shit was likely to go down.

    • albert180@piefed.social
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      21 hours ago

      Vlad can’t do shit in Western Europe. The bigger danger are our own right wing assholes pushed by Russia, American owned (social) media and TikTok