• millie@beehaw.org
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    22 hours ago

    🤞

    I think there’s a good chance. He’s shown both parties that the result of him being able to do whatever he wants unchecked will be the crumbling of our alliances and our economy and the steady erosion of all the good things about our country. Even conservatives can see the damage he’s doing.

    If there were an election today he wouldn’t even come close to winning. Hopefully those who are responsible for his potential impeachment see that if they allow this to continue they won’t have a shot in their next elections either.

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      There’s no chance. What he’s doing now is what the Republicans have been trying to do since the 1980s: defund the government, deport immigrants, end legal abortion, roll back LGBTQ protections, etc.

      It’s taken them this long to accomplish it because they all knew actually implementing it would be political suicide. But now they have a president who will very happily push it all through, take all the credit for it, and probably won’t even lose that much popularity as his cult of personality lets him get away with way more than most presidents would.

      All they have to do is play passive for the next four years and give non-answers every time anyone asks them why they’re not standing up to Trump. Even if the Democrats win Congress and the presidency in 2028, the Republicans have the courts and can block any bill the Democrats pass, making it very difficult to fix Trump’s mess. And they can blame the recession that the next president inherits on that president, giving them a decent shot at 2032.

      In short, Republicans have no reason to want to impeach Trump. They can use him as their attack dog to do what they want without getting their own hands dirty.

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        They have a damn good reason to want to impeach him. He’s threatening the economy and the remainder of our relevance internationally. The Republicans have to live here too. If he yanks down all the load-bearing structures in our house, it’s going to collapse on them too.

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      13 hours ago

      Republicans have proven they will never abandon him while they remain in power — Trump will not be impeached (again) or convicted until Democrats return to power.

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        11 hours ago

        Despite the defeatist angles that are constantly posted on Lemmy, this is not what I’m seeing from actually reading the news.

        Congress could literally be voting to impeach with 90% of the house and senate in support and y’all would still be banging on about how nothing will ever happen. I’m over it.

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          11 hours ago

          And when exactly has congress voted 90% on impeachment?

          Remind me right before midterms about what happens with impeachment.

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            10 hours ago

            I would be surprised if it got that much support, but that’s not the point. The vibes on Lemmy are absolutely terrible and actively cultivating helplessness. There are so many people here who immediately decided we’re all cooked and spend their time trying to demotivate people and push any resistance to admit defeat that it’s absurd. That’s not how you push back, it’s not how you make things better, and it’s literally the kind of shitty helpless attitude that got us into this mess.

            Something isn’t right? Don’t take active steps to try to fix it or give your support to anyone who is. Stand on the sidelines preaching this loser shit. We’re all doomed and there’s no point fighting. Don’t run new candidates, just refuse to vote. Don’t create networks of support, tear each other down. Don’t for a second allow a glimmer of hope to go unopposed.

            Seriously, how can anyone ever be expected to accomplish anything with that kind of attitude?

            I’m honestly starting to think this platform is just as toxic as Reddit or Facebook have ever been, without the help of any shady manipulative algorithm.

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                I am a fellow pessimist. The key right now is community. Get to know your neighbors. Get involved with local mutual aid groups. Volunteer at the local community garden. Right now community is everything, and that is what will carry us through

                Yes, vote when you can, especially locally, but know that it is up those we vote in to start to fix things. Hold their feet to the fire. Call them as often as you are able. Ask for specifics on how they are standing up to Trump. Have your neighbors do the same.

                It fucking sucks right now, but don’t just give up.

                All that of course comes with the caveat of take care of yourself first. Can’t fight if you are unable to get out of bed

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                I mean, step one is not turning the entire opposition into defeatists via constant steeping in negativity and hopelessness. We need to get our energy up and keep it there so we can actually get some traction. We have to believe that we have a chance to change something before we can actually work up the gumption to do it.

                That won’t happen if half the left is busy telling the other half we’re cooked. It certainly won’t happen if they convince more of us to become defeatists or to try to take our ball and go home as if our homes aren’t literally in the country in question.