After appx. 20 years in the apple eco-system I have decided to move on.
This will take time, i’m thinking 2-5 years.
My first order of business was a tablet. I couldn’t find a viable european tablet so went for a Samsung Tab S10 Ultra which has worked out great. It won me over from my pre-conception that android is somehow more budget, 2nd tier stuff. Its actually a very solid well-designed/built piece of kit in every way an equal to an iPad.
So i’m looking at Fairphone and Nothing right now for a new phone, i’m not in a hurry, I was supposed to upgrade my 14 Pro this autumn and i’m thinking that is still the time line.
Are there other european alternatives that I should be looking at?
Will air pods and apple watches still work in any sort of way with android? I will eventually replace them but both are still quite new.
Any advice from people who has already done this journey?
Pic ridiculous but related.
Take a look at this list. SHIFT from Germany is somewhat comparable to Fairphone in terms of modularity, HMD from FInland has also recently introduced some modular design into their phones. Note that these phonse are not manufactured in Europe, I’m not sure if any smartphone is. Another option not listed on that Wikipedia page is Mudita, from Poland, which is in the process of launching its first minimalist e-ink smartphone the Kompakt.
My wife just bought the HMD/NOKIA G42 phone.
It’s a low end phone but still surprisingly good, and excellent battery life.
One thing she really likes is the concept that allow you to repair it yourself if necessary.It’s just about the opposite of an Apple phone in every way. 😋
That’s interesting, I live in the android world for a pretty long time now and am interested in tech in general but never heard of SHIFTphones before which is especially surprising since they seem to tick all my boxes.
Do you have experience with them? They seem to have an active developer and custom rom community. How long is the official update support for their devices? This is the most important criteria for me these days. I am still running a pixel 4a in perfect condition which sadly does not get any updates anymore. I don’t want this to happen again in the future if I can avoid it.
Also, any idea how there can be custom roms for the SHIFT phone 8 even tho it’s not even release yet?
Currently typing on a Shiftphone 8, so maybe I can give some answers. First, the developers have stated that they will support the device with security patches at least until 2032. The Shiftphone is not officially released yet, that is correct, but they started sending out devices to early backers of their crowd funding. And being a rather small player, they still have a lot to do to fulfill all the preorders - they got way more preorders than they’ve expected. That’s why there is already an active custom ROM community around this device. Now to my personal experience: I absolutely love the idea behind it and being able to just take the battery out of the phone is (sadly, regarding older days) a game changer. I have to admit: the software feels a little bit like it’s still in beta. Of course, since Shift doesn’t has an armada of software developers as for example Google or Apple has, it’s harder for them to fine tune their drivers etc. Bluetooth has connection issues on my side, I mistype way more on my Shiftphone 8 touchscreen than I do on the Pixel 7a my wife uses and the programmable button on the left side of the device still has no settings menu to change its behavior. You see, the software is still under heavy development. But all that will get better as time goes on.
Fairphone with eOS if you want to get away from Google even more. No google services but access to f-droid and the play store with anonymous accounts.
Or, get a second-hand phone and flash it with eOS or lineage OS.
I will need my phone for banking software including bankid that we have in Sweden. I’ve read its painful to get that wirking without google services. But yeah, that was my first thought, get something de-googled. 🤷🏼♂️
Understandable. It’s a pity Google is so embedded in our systems. You can still get a fairphone though. It also comes with regular android. I’ve read in multiple places not to get the official fairphone case. You might have to check why that is.
The good thing about the fairphone is that it has the highest reparability raring of any current phone out there. You can swap put the screen, battery, and other components very easily when things go haywire.
And of course it’s one of the very few companies on this world that tries to give a shit about slavery in the supply chain.
I know somebody’s going to day “get a pixel and put grapheneOS, it’s the most secure phone in the planet”. I don’t know if the Swedish apps dependent on google services will work, but if you do decide to go google hardware, you can try and get it secondhand.
Fairephone is European but they’re made in china
Im betting no matter what you buy, tech-wise, its made in China. I just rather pay a european company than an american one.
I think the librem phone or something was american made
Motherland, surely? -a is a feminine ending.
Fatherland is often feminine in Latin languages, example: “la patrie” in french.
Patria can be translated to motherland, fatherland, or native land but the word for father in Latin is pater. So looking at the word, fatherland is not incorrect.
Land in Latin is usually feminine unless it has to do with ownership.
Nothing Phone from the UK.
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get that Nazi poster outta here
It was a soviet poster - there has been a lot of them, each showing people from different republics doing stuff together. Like people from occupied Baltic countries cared of people from Kazakhstan and everyone wanted to be together
millions of people were sent to gulags because everyone wanted to join the Soviet Union, great revisionism
Is the “revisionism” thing directed to me? Then you can’t read irony, my comment is clearly showing that I don’t agree with the logic of authors of the poster. Don’t throw the gulag word on me, is it the only thing you know about ussr?
I answered to your comment because you wrongly called it a nazi poster, which it isn’t.
