• Ithorian [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    They way she phrased that she’s obviously a piece of shit but is standing in corner really considered abusive? That was probably the lightest punishment I got as kid.

    • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      2 months ago

      What purpose does it serve and what do you do if the child refuses? The implication is that if you don’t stand in the corner I’ll do something worse, is it not? And the purpose seems like it’s just an expression of authority over the child it’s not going to help them understand why they’re being punished

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        2 months ago

        I don’t know shit about children and I have no education in the matter. It sounded like a good rule of thumb to me that if you don’t address the feelings and frustrations of a misbehavior child and give them an alternative method of expression then they’re either going to get more clever or more withdrawn. I suppose you can’t go “how do you feel?” as they try to carve into the wall with a knife, so it’s like a flowchart of

        stop them from being a problem -> give them a space to cool down (preferably one that is soothing to the senses) -> ask them about what made them feel the need to lash out -> put them in BJJ classes -> start them watching One Piece

        I’m not sure about the last two steps, honestly (they might need to be the first two steps).

    • FumpyAer [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      2 months ago

      That’s insight into one moment of the shooter’s whole life. Who knows what else they went through. He had “developmental delays and special needs” and his mom kidnapped him and took him to Norway when he was 11, according to New York Post.

      That said, shaming a child isn’t a very effective way to correct behavior or make them a well-adjusted adult. I did not benefit at all from being shamed, and now I shame myself internally as a habit, though I’m working on that :')

      People with good self esteem don’t throw their life away by mass murdering innocents. From what I’ve read, the communities that urge their members to do RW terrorism do so by convincing them that their life has no worth and they “might as well” go out in “glory”. I’d rather inoculate my theoretical children from that, and instilling guilt just makes it easier to break them down.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      2 months ago

      I think the weirdness has less to do with the punishment itself and more to do with how it has the exact same cadence as boomers talking about why it’s okay to hit kids. Plus, you know, she raised a school shooter.