Because the DSA trying to actually trying to hold offices which the PSL is explicitly not trying to do. Last I heard from a PSL member here the line was engaging in american democracy is futile and building a mass movement to react to the eventual collapse. Which might be true, but people keep saying they want a labor party so let’s try to do that.
Also please don’t insult our PSL comrades by saying Claudia was a real electoral strategy and not a big publicity campaign. I refuse to believe they are that stupid.
As effective as the DemCents historically are, the “internal democracy” seems to be in theory only. I wouldn’t mind that if I thought the org was already on the right path (which I don’t really know what that is). AFAIK PSL just shows up with posters at any vaguely left rally. I haven’t encountered them naturally in the wild doing direct action. Maybe I don’t get out enough. Maybe the local chapter is weak. I at least encountered SAlt doing some abolitionist work. But then their national spewed some bullshit that DSA had “a ban on marxists” which reminded me what Troskyism was.
I truly want to love them but this is also my experience of PSL, sadly. I’ve known about PSL since right around the time they formed and it hasn’t really changed. Back then people said it was just new so you had to give it time and now they say they are only just growing, but the organizing is simply not there for a Party of that size and knowledge.
Just a Party that reads good theory and likes to protest, not much else.
But why form a new party when the PSL exists?
Because the DSA trying to actually trying to hold offices which the PSL is explicitly not trying to do. Last I heard from a PSL member here the line was engaging in american democracy is futile and building a mass movement to react to the eventual collapse. Which might be true, but people keep saying they want a labor party so let’s try to do that.
Also please don’t insult our PSL comrades by saying Claudia was a real electoral strategy and not a big publicity campaign. I refuse to believe they are that stupid.
I completely agree that this is PSL’s greatest weakness, by the way.
I think it’s ultimately a useless party if they maintain that strategy.
As effective as the DemCents historically are, the “internal democracy” seems to be in theory only. I wouldn’t mind that if I thought the org was already on the right path (which I don’t really know what that is). AFAIK PSL just shows up with posters at any vaguely left rally. I haven’t encountered them naturally in the wild doing direct action. Maybe I don’t get out enough. Maybe the local chapter is weak. I at least encountered SAlt doing some abolitionist work. But then their national spewed some bullshit that DSA had “a ban on marxists” which reminded me what Troskyism was.
I truly want to love them but this is also my experience of PSL, sadly. I’ve known about PSL since right around the time they formed and it hasn’t really changed. Back then people said it was just new so you had to give it time and now they say they are only just growing, but the organizing is simply not there for a Party of that size and knowledge.
Just a Party that reads good theory and likes to protest, not much else.