Suit yourself if you want to spend $30k on a logo my dude.
Holy shit 30k? People actually buy 30k handbags? I know nothing about the luxury goods market to be clear. This is a high price right? That cannot be normal. Are these people stupid?
Are these people stupid?
Yes.
Birkin bags specifically are a major social class indicator in the NYC socialite/mega-wealth circle. I’m talking people who know the names of every one of their ancestors going back to 1066 because they were the fuckers selling the weapons to both sides, shipping slaves across the Atlantic, plundering the continent, murdering activists, and so on and so forth. Freaks so wealthy that money is meaningless and burned on signifiers that they’re more “in” than their inbred cohort.
New Birkins start at 21k but the limited edition ones can get up to 500k.
Damn, I think I will smoke tonight
Wild to imply that the Chinese factory can’t hand stitch when there are literally people in the background of the video hand stitching.
I usually love reading about someones special interests but just feels like this guy is overcompensating and feigning an admiration for some bygone era of crafts work that obviously still exists but can’t compare to buying a handbag for a price you can afford, all so they can dunk on the asians making their clothes
But there’s another way to appreciate fashion—through craft. It’s not about how well something performs or what it communicates. Instead, it’s about valuing the skill, time, and intention embedded in the object itself, even if no one else cares or recognizes those qualities
who motherfucker, who is appreciating fashion through craft that aren’t already hobbyist tailors
I think this is because they do not see POC as skilled. When people who arent white do skillful things its just them “copying” or “ripping off” white people in the eyes of people like this. It can’t compute in their heads that Chinese people are by and large more skilled than their western counterparts.
Ah, the menswear guy
This is like when I saw a redditor claim the Chinese “didn’t know how make a ballpoint pen until 2014”
Ridiculous racist nonsense
LMAO, fucking what?
even if they’re extremely racist, how can they possibly believe that the country that made the majority of advanced electronics were stumped by a fucking ball in a socket?
absolute mind blowing levels of stupidity
Actually it’s more ridiculous, they claim they couldn’t make them until 2017 , the propaganda was being pushed about 2 years ago or so. Just search in google “China couldn’t make a ballpoint pen until 2017”. You’ll see countless videos and articles claiming this.
this fucking idiot includes illustrative stock photos in his tweets
It also is a stupid point. If you follow the same recipe and use exactly the same ingredients as a Michelin star chef, a skilled home cook can absolutely produce food on par with the finest restaurants in the world.
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Heirloom tomatoes absolutely are different and better in a lot of instances. They’re also easily available at every grocery store for marginally more than a shit hothouse slicer tomato.
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The bag he feels so threatened by is like two thousand dollars lol, he’s acting like its lean cuisine
That’s french cooking, Michelin star meals do involve more skill and knowledge than “more butter, more garlic”. Not so much more that you can’t replicate most of it at home, but, just to emphasise how bad a choice of analogy this was, the bits that are too complex to do in your kitchen require specialised machines.
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His entire post is about craftsmanship. And I agree with most of what he says! Good craftsmanship can really separate one brand from another.
But the video he’s responding to addresses this. It estimates the cost of labor put into a Hermes bag at $400, appropriate for a highly skilled craftsperson working for a few hours, but even with that taken into account the final price of the Hermes bag ended up being over 95% branding and the logo.
Context: It turns out the dude is, I shit you not, some Vietnamese gusano lmao: https://nitter.net/wrenevans217208/status/1912200465686626521
Bro really had a pfp of some white dude because he’s a self-hating Asian dude. I thought he was just some generic mediocre (white) Sinophobe, but him being a Vietnamese gusano adds much more context. Sorry dude, but wearing expensive clothes “made” from Europe won’t stop people from calling you a g-word like GIs did to your people.
He directly credits a number of East Asian manufacturers for their quality and addresses the video author’s misinformation about the actual price of the bag he’s holding. Menswear Man here, if you follow him, never shuts up about expensive clothing because he’s a strong proponent of honoring the cultural roots of clothing, which to him means hand-made by the culture that invented it.
For instance he talked about how America can never produce a cowichan sweater because all real cowichans are made with a specific process and specific material by a specific indigenous group in Canada. They also cost a fuck ton and owning a cowichan sweater is a strong cultural indicator of your beliefs and means.
I can see his worldview extending to a steadfast belief that the expensive French bag, while overpriced, is only authentic if made by French artisans in France. He’s not saying that Chinese people can’t make an exact copy of a Birkin, he’s doubting that this viral Chinese dude is actually making Birkins and not just taking advantage of the current economic situation, since he doesn’t compare his bags to “authentic” Hermes at any point or show his artisans producing the components.
The “cultural roots” of Hermes is making overpriced luxury goods for colonizers. Comparing making a ridiculously overpriced handbag for a literal member of the British aristocracy to carry her things on her first class flights between Paris and London to actual cultural art like cowichan sweaters is absurd.
France has tons of actual traditional cultural clothing and crafts, a $40k generic looking leather bag from the '80s isn’t one of them.
