• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    It’s true but hollow. Dems are never going to have as strong a hand as they had in 2021, when Biden was taking office with an open hand and a liberal-friendly bureaucracy.

    The government that Trump leaves behind in his second term is going to be gutted and its institutions slaved to whatever technocracy Musk and Thiel can cobble together in the next four years. You’re not going to have a DOJ capable of prosecuting an ex-President or an FBI capable of investing one or a court willing to rule against one. And that’s assuming we still have an election system capable of replacing him or his party.

    AOC’s truths are too little and too late. She should have been out there rallying a crowd to scream this shit in Biden’s ear back when it mattered. She should have been holding firm on “Defund ICE” back before they were snatching people off the street and shoving them in El Salvadorian prisons.

    That’s the real difference between her and Trump. He spent eight years building a real active reactionary fascist movement. Meanwhile, I don’t see any AOC-Stans storming the capital in the next four years.

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      OK doomer. There’s still a lot more of us than these crooks, and just one was necessary to scare them.

      “The Dems” is only a party label, which has and will mean something different to different times. The most difficult task ahead is re-earning governmental legitimacy and global trust, which can only happen if we fix everything in our system of government recently demonstrated to be dangerously outdated, broken, or useless. I’m fairly certain that’s the only way back. That scale of reform will require a public mandate and will leave no party label intact. AOC could lead that charge, and may not need to run as a democrat ever again. We may not even have a two-party system by the end of it.

      But getting anywhere requires first steps. The easiest way to not see reform is for those who would fight to give up hope. I know it’s easy to get discouraged in dark times. It is OK to feel discouraged, but spreading that despair among allies when it’s time to fight is not. That is selfish wallowing that only serves the enemy.

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      She should have been out there rallying a crowd to scream this shit in Biden’s ear back when it mattered. She should have been holding firm on “Defund ICE” back before they were snatching people off the street and shoving them in El Salvadorian prisons.

      She was. Turns out nothing you do matters if the entire media apparatus is conspiring with the other side.

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      You don’t even know what you wish would happen. First you say there’s no way that the Democrats can recover, which ignores the obvious truth that perhaps they could, and also opens up the option that a legitimate party could possibly replace them. Second, you suggest that storming the capital is a good idea, but if that’s the case it doesn’t really matter what happens in the polls, because we’re already moving towards anarchy, right? Third, if you want to get together a group of people and storm the capital, I think you’re going to end up in the morgue very quickly. The cops up there do not like people like you, they will be happy to take down people like you.