Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) let loose on Trump at a rally, calling him a "criminal," a liar, a "rapist," and a stock market cheat — for starters.
People voted, but the MAGA Nazis rigged the election, and we ALL know it. Too bad the Democratic leadership decided to help the MAGA Nazis cover it up, and declare that they won “fair & square.” Rich Democrats like Schumer can be bought as easily as any Republican.
It seems quite likely, but aside from the plain-sight rigging (gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc etc) I haven’t seen anything except that one “computer science” guy whose numbers were contradicted by election officers.
The most alarming development on Tuesday was more than 30 bomb threats that were called into election locations, according to CBS News, including two that temporarily shut down two polling locations in Georgia. Both were “non-credible” and from Russia, Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger said. Voting hours were extended at five polling places in Fulton county as a result.
Well that certainly sounds bad, but it also sounds like a weak attempt at creating chaos. There are 100,000 polling places, they emailed bomb threats to “more than” 30 and apparently the return address on at least some were russian domains. And they were declared false and the polling places extended hours.
It’s bad, and it’s clearly designed to help trump, but I can’t see it swinging an election. Obviously it would add to the rest of it, but given what could have happened (i.e. MAGA chuds circling the parking lots with guns or some shit) it doesn’t sound like that was much of a factor.
I mean, if 35 fake bomb threats can win you the presidency we should have figured that out before, right?
Why are you excluding the “plain sight rigging?” Beyond gerrymandering, millions of voters were disqualified through ostensibly legal means that likely wouldn’t stand up to legal challenge, but the Democrats were so concerned about taking the high road to pre-empt accusations of “throwing a tantrum” like the right did on January 6 that they just let it all slide.
Well, for one that’s not new - they’ve been doing that for a long time.
For two, as an example, where do we get “millions” of voters from? Is it a non-corporate-news blog without citations? My preference is corporate news with citations since that’s going to have the biggest impact.
You could read what I linked; guy lists his own credentials and experience in addition to his sources.
Still curious why “they’ve been doing that for a long time” is justification for you to just ignore all the unethical voter disenfranchisement occurring, especially considering the unprecedented scale (of which you be aware if you’d read my link).
Not exactly a citation but it was pretty weird when someone found one of the DOGE staffers’ participation in a hackathon around vote manipulation that got him real close with Musk as a result. Then he started wiping his connections once it was made public.
Honestly, I suspect they’ve been trying trying their hardest to rig the last several elections, which is why they were so pissed off and in denial about 2020: they were incredulous that they rigged it and still managed to lose anyway.
But yeah, we’ve been having exit poll discrepancies, Republican success strangely correlating with the installation of Diebold voting machines with no paper ballot, outsized performance for certain Republican candidates even though Democrats won down-ballot races, and other weird anomalies for couple of decades now.
That said, I don’t necessarily think that Republican rigging changed the 2024 outcome. I was watching them insert MAGAts into election boards, pack the courts, and gear up to refuse to certify votes and whatnot, so I was fully expecting “stop the steal 2.0” except successful this time. But then Harris gave a big middle finger to the left and subsequently underperformed so badly that she just lost outright, so the foul play wasn’t even necessary.
The truth is that outright stealing elections via vote rigging is an incredibly risky strategy. If you do that, and you get caught? That’s the kind of thing that can legitimately trigger an actual civil war. Rationally, it’s just not worth the risk. It’s especially not worth the risk when there are plenty of other shady but legal options available like gerrymandering, voter roll purges, corrupt judicial rulings, etc.
This dynamic is also why you rarely see companies bribing politicians with giant bags of cash delivered in the night. There’s no need to engage in such overt bribery, as they’ve already constructed a system where legal forms of bribery (campaign contributions) exist.
What do you think they’re afraid of? Every time they get caught doing something blatantly illegal, the only consequence is their base gets more enthusiastic. And they’re not exactly trying to avoid a civil war now that they’re in power.
People voted, but the MAGA Nazis rigged the election, and we ALL know it. Too bad the Democratic leadership decided to help the MAGA Nazis cover it up, and declare that they won “fair & square.” Rich Democrats like Schumer can be bought as easily as any Republican.
I wish to investigate your citations.
It seems quite likely, but aside from the plain-sight rigging (gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc etc) I haven’t seen anything except that one “computer science” guy whose numbers were contradicted by election officers.
The cascade of bomb threats in blue areas’ poking centers of swing states didn’t reach your attention?
I remember one. Do you have a list of them?
There were over 30. Hitting at least 5 swing states. Some polling places were evacuated multiple times.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/election-day-voting-glitches-bomb-threats
Well that certainly sounds bad, but it also sounds like a weak attempt at creating chaos. There are 100,000 polling places, they emailed bomb threats to “more than” 30 and apparently the return address on at least some were russian domains. And they were declared false and the polling places extended hours.
It’s bad, and it’s clearly designed to help trump, but I can’t see it swinging an election. Obviously it would add to the rest of it, but given what could have happened (i.e. MAGA chuds circling the parking lots with guns or some shit) it doesn’t sound like that was much of a factor.
I mean, if 35 fake bomb threats can win you the presidency we should have figured that out before, right?
Why are you excluding the “plain sight rigging?” Beyond gerrymandering, millions of voters were disqualified through ostensibly legal means that likely wouldn’t stand up to legal challenge, but the Democrats were so concerned about taking the high road to pre-empt accusations of “throwing a tantrum” like the right did on January 6 that they just let it all slide.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f
Well, for one that’s not new - they’ve been doing that for a long time.
For two, as an example, where do we get “millions” of voters from? Is it a non-corporate-news blog without citations? My preference is corporate news with citations since that’s going to have the biggest impact.
You could read what I linked; guy lists his own credentials and experience in addition to his sources.
Still curious why “they’ve been doing that for a long time” is justification for you to just ignore all the unethical voter disenfranchisement occurring, especially considering the unprecedented scale (of which you be aware if you’d read my link).
Not exactly a citation but it was pretty weird when someone found one of the DOGE staffers’ participation in a hackathon around vote manipulation that got him real close with Musk as a result. Then he started wiping his connections once it was made public.
https://bsky.app/profile/denisedwheeler.bsky.social/post/3lhowh3ijgs2f
So, the MAGAs didn’t rig the election in 2020 and let Biden win, and then when they were out of power decided to steal it? You contradict yourself.
When Biden won, states launched literally hundreds of pieces of legislation to make sure that didn’t happen again. Did you not notice?
Honestly, I suspect they’ve been trying trying their hardest to rig the last several elections, which is why they were so pissed off and in denial about 2020: they were incredulous that they rigged it and still managed to lose anyway.
But yeah, we’ve been having exit poll discrepancies, Republican success strangely correlating with the installation of Diebold voting machines with no paper ballot, outsized performance for certain Republican candidates even though Democrats won down-ballot races, and other weird anomalies for couple of decades now.
That said, I don’t necessarily think that Republican rigging changed the 2024 outcome. I was watching them insert MAGAts into election boards, pack the courts, and gear up to refuse to certify votes and whatnot, so I was fully expecting “stop the steal 2.0” except successful this time. But then Harris gave a big middle finger to the left and subsequently underperformed so badly that she just lost outright, so the foul play wasn’t even necessary.
The truth is that outright stealing elections via vote rigging is an incredibly risky strategy. If you do that, and you get caught? That’s the kind of thing that can legitimately trigger an actual civil war. Rationally, it’s just not worth the risk. It’s especially not worth the risk when there are plenty of other shady but legal options available like gerrymandering, voter roll purges, corrupt judicial rulings, etc.
This dynamic is also why you rarely see companies bribing politicians with giant bags of cash delivered in the night. There’s no need to engage in such overt bribery, as they’ve already constructed a system where legal forms of bribery (campaign contributions) exist.
What do you think they’re afraid of? Every time they get caught doing something blatantly illegal, the only consequence is their base gets more enthusiastic. And they’re not exactly trying to avoid a civil war now that they’re in power.
An overt civil war. The leader getting caught outright stealing an election is the kind of thing that causes people to start picking up guns.
At this point I’m half convinced they want a civil war.