maybe im rambling but i see too much about how kids need to be beat to be disciplined. seeing vids of kids misbehaving and i see comments of how their parents would have them beat. wtf that is not normal at all why are we accepting this
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I have a unique insight on this. My uncle is a deranged Trump guy and posted one of those memes you’re talking about, where it was like, “This is what happens when you don’t beat your kids!”
I reached out to him, and I asked if he beat his kids (my cousins), and he became furious at me for suggesting he abuses his kids. He even got my aunt to yell at me for suggesting the same.
So, basically, they think other people’s kids should be beaten.
Did you tell him you got the thought from his post? Maybe it’s a good strategy to get them to not post shit like this if they realise it makes people think they beat their own kids.
Did my best but he got spitting mad almost instantly and blocked me. We haven’t spoken since. We’ve gone kind of no-contact with that side of the family since Trump because my sister is trans and they’re shitty about it.
Since he’s being really defensive and aggressive, I wouldn’t be surprised if he absolutely is hitting his kids.
That meshes really cleanly with how conservatives view the law as a constraint of the actions of others but a freeing of their own, paradoxically.
This is fascinating
But also they definitely do beat their own kids, you should ask your cousins in private. My parents didn’t do anything to me but I was a kid and went to other kid’s houses to play and I saw some things that didn’t happen at my house.
I’m almost certain he never beat my cousins.
That’s actually quite a common mindset. It’s okay for x thing to happen to someone else’s kids, but not my own.
There was a clip of the praguer U guy talking about a kindergarten poster with the words “the world is a better place because you are in it” and he was shitting on it and then it took a turn and he goes “my dad never said a thing like that to me [and I turned out fine]” and I just felt so terrible for him, daddy issues will turn you into a piece of shit.
I cannot for the life of me understand how people can listen to that and not realize how anti-human that entire worldview is. I’m not even asking for these people to turn around and become communists, just some mild reflection on how their political project is centered around tearing other people down rather than compassion and helping others. I can’t help but think that it must slowly poison your soul, for lack of a better term, to view the world in such a way.
Funny how everyone who says they turned out fine are all depraved misanthropic child abusers
In the US at least it starts off with the fact that something like half of all births are totally unplanned for. Then through some combination of hubris and stupidity most Americans don’t actually make any substantial effort to learn how to be a parent. Then between the cost of it all and the general social malaise lead to the parents lashing out at the weakest and most vulnerable people in their vicinity - their children.
Of course our society facilitates this bad parenting. Family planning is extremely inaccessible and sometimes even looked down upon. The same goes for therapy or counseling. Children cost a lot and there’s very little universal support. Still though it’s kinda shocking to me that people don’t take it upon themselves to make an effort to learn and plan. Anecdotally it seems that millennials and Gen z are more inclined to that though which is good.
In the US at least it starts off with the fact that something like half of all births are totally unplanned for. Then through some combination of hubris and stupidity most Americans don’t actually make any substantial effort to learn how to be a parent. Then between the cost of it all and the general social malaise lead to the parents lashing out at the weakest and most vulnerable people in their vicinity - their children.
Not cool of you to doxx my childhood story
Great analysis of the matter. I couldn’t agree more
its probably because they see their kids as property
That’s exactly it IMO. These are the same people who would own slaves if they could and abuse animals. There’s a massive overlap between people who hit their kids and people who are racist/sexist and make eating meat their whole personality.
Because we still live under patriarchy
religion and a lingering view of children being property
Child abuse is normalized, if it stops being normalized then they have to reckon with what it means to be a 1) victim, 2) victimized by the very people that should love them unconditionally, 3) live in a society where this is totally okay.
A society that eats it’s children. Capitalist society sees greed and exploitation of lower classes as natural, and child raising flies in the face of this notion as it requires empathy and investment from society. Capitalists see this as a burden. In their eyes these are people of lower status that cannot look after themselves, and people of lower status who cannot look after themselves must be nipped and bitten until they pick up the slack or die.
It is a deeply flawed and sick way to run a society.
People view children as property who the parents should have total and complete control over. I don’t know why children are dehumanized in this way (probably patriarchy etc) but it’s pretty clear that’s where a lot of this stems from.
My siblings and I grew up experiencing frequent physical abuse over minor things. Now, as adults, the aftermath is painfully clear. One of my sisters ran away when she was still young. I’ve cut off all contact with our mother — she’s never met her grandchildren. One of my brothers struggles with drug addiction, another is chronically in debt due to a gambling addiction. The only two siblings still in touch with our mother are my brother who has a cognitive disability — caused by a grenade shard injury when he was a baby — and the brother who sexually abused my sister, and was then protected by our mother. This system is built on child abuse and neglect.
Wales banned spanking (classified it as child abuse) years ago and the English media has spent that time calling it “controversial” or “nanny state”. just stop hitting your fucking kids
Needs to happen everywhere
cw triggering language about abuse
it’s interesting(by interesting i mean immensely sad and disturbing) thinking about how society weighs abuse based on whether it was “physical” or “sexual” and the age and perceived gender of the abuse victim… like pedophilia vs non SA physical violence towards children, men vs women vs trans/gnc vs old vs young, whether there is an attempted social “ownership” of the victim thru parentship or marriage, etc… even race
ur parents put you in an iron maiden for 17 years straight just because you looked at the cookie jar funny once on nanny cam? that’s all? sry buddy, that’s a normal childhood.
My guess would be boomers who are very vocal online and have nostalgia for being hit by their parents mad they couldn’t do the same to their kids without fear of cps coming knocking.
Our minds shutdown when tackling incest and child abuse. Same reason why it’s impossible to have a conversation about Epstein and it’s insane implications.
I became aware of Dorothee Dussy, a french sociologist who wrote a book called “the cradle of dominations: an anthropology of incest”, this past semester and it was quite harsh but eye opening. I suggest looking into it.
Trauma is self perpetuating 😔
