The U.S. government attorney also struggled to provide any information about the exact whereabouts of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, despite Thursday’s ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court that the Trump administration must bring him back.

“Where is he and under whose authority?” U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis asked in a Maryland courtroom.

“I’m not asking for state secrets,” she said. “All I know is that he’s not here. The government was prohibited from sending him to El Salvador, and now I’m asking a very simple question: where is he?”

  • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    White House Google search history right now:

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia where

    How to bring someone back to life

    How long can someone be dead and still come back to life

    CPR videos

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia Facebook

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia images

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia pictures

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia look alikes

    Donald Trump poll numbers

    Why do polls lie

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia Fox News

    Donald Trump Fox News

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia MS-14

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia MS-13

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia criminal history

    Kilmar Abrego Garcia democrat

    How to tell if someone is a democrat

    Is El Salvador a state

    Is El Salvador part of the United States

  • Godthrilla@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    They lost him. There’s so many people in that prison and you know the prison dgaf about identifying and tracking their prisoners.

  • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    84
    ·
    3 days ago

    I’m betting they won’t be able to get him because he’s already dead and they know it but don’t want to admit it.

    • SeaJ@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      45
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      Saw somebody suggest this last night and it seems like a very real possibility. Why else would they stall on returning him? It’s not like him telling everyone his experience will make the administration care about the terrible conditions there. Those conditions are the point.

      • Drusas@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        38
        ·
        3 days ago

        It’s possible that people get thrown into that prison without tracking who or where they are once they get in.

        • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          25
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 days ago

          “Look, we know they’re never coming out anyway, keeping track of who we throw in there would be a waste of time and money” sounds like exactly the kind of “efficiency” this administration is known for

        • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          16
          ·
          edit-2
          3 days ago

          That’s another possibility, and also possibly why they’re trying to say that trips to that prison are always life sentences. That’s the only way not having tracking makes any kind of sense at all. But realistically, every prison, even a Salvadorian super jail, is going to have some kind of tracking, or they’d never know if they lost a prisoner.

                • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  I know it’s a small tangent, but if you use UUIDv7 (and I think there’s another version as well), you can resolve a date from the ID, as the creation time of the ID is used to help build the ID itself.

      • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        22
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        Yeah, tbh, they’re trying to say these are all life sentences. It got me thinking: if El Salvador believes the US will never ask for the prisoners back, what’s their incentive not to just kill these people and take the whole check to the bank? I know this guy in particular was seeking refuge from El Salvadorian gangs in the US, so there’s a special incentive for him to end up dead, but I really don’t see why they wouldn’t just kill all the US prisoners if they really believe that the US will never ask for them back AND wants them in jail for life AND aren’t demanding some kind of tracking. There’s literally no reason at all not to just kill em and keep cashing the checks. If anyone comes knocking just say “oh shit, I guess they got away” or “we must have transferred them and lost the paperwork, sorry”

        • SeaJ@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          18
          ·
          3 days ago

          About the only incentive is that they are used as what amounts to slave labor. Gang members are put away for life and do hard labor. People who did crime but not violent crime are put away for years and are given “skills” training for when they get out.

          • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            edit-2
            3 days ago

            Even then that’s kinda dubious. You don’t want your dangerous folks out there actually doing kind of important stuff that either risks them escaping or sabotaging or fucking up. There’s only so many useful jobs you can have maximum security prisoners doing, and they don’t tend to be ones that create a lot of value. I imagine that much of it is digging ditches and filling them back up again.

  • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    It’s so blatant they are defying the court. They made no attempts to prepare knowing that this ruling was a possibility.

    You’d think someone would have started something before the order actually came.

  • solrize@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    57
    ·
    3 days ago

    Judge, order a copy of his fingerprints RIGHT NOW to check for imposters when they bring some poor slob into the courtroom claiming he is the guy. Also, have his family on a video call to the court to check him. Don’t bring them in person since they could get grabbed too.

  • Ideonek@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    2 days ago

    If this story allone doesn’t terrify you to the bone something is seriously wrong with you.

  • thefartographer@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    3 days ago

    My top four hypotheses:

    1. Gotta finish putting together an incentive package so that he won’t talk about what he saw and experienced
    2. Need more time to find a living prisoner who looks like him
    3. Trying to figure out which mass grave he’s in
    4. Someone is Googling “can they get DNA from ashes”
  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    My mom needed to take an emergency trip to El Salvador and she got a ticket and was in San Salvador within 24 hours. Does the DOJ need my elderly mom to come help them figure out the booking website? On second thought forget it, not letting my Latino mom near these people