• darq
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    558 months ago

    I have Evasion, so uhhh… Yup, zero damage.

    • @Khanzarate@lemmy.world
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      338 months ago

      DC 20 isn’t even hard considering the effect it’s supposed to have.

      Level 7 rogue that just got Evasion has a +3 proficiency and could have 20 dex, so succeeds for ZERO damage on a 12, and never takes full.

      I think the scroll should’ve split between Force and Fire damage. Make the Force damage a CON save for half, because you can’t avoid it, only tank it, and make the fire the dex save.

      Then rogues still get to use Evasion, but it’s not “I anime dodge the comet”.

      • darq
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        248 months ago

        Eh. If the wizard can conjure it, the rogue should be able to dodge it.

        I know it makes my GM twitch whenever my rogue or monk would dodge an explosion. But we have to disillusion ourselves of the ridiculous notion that martial characters have to obey the laws of physics.

          • @nxdefiant@startrek.website
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            148 months ago

            as a DM I tell my players I reserve the right to describe their actions in the event they pull some ridiculous shit like this off, usually they ask me to because more often than not they’re equally surprised.

        • @ferret@ttrpg.network
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          But we have to disillusion ourselves of the ridiculous notion that martial characters have to obey the laws of physics.

          With the amount of damage that martial characters can tank or dish out, I think the only explanation is that martials use magic as well, just not the conscious brainy kind. There must be some subconscious muscle magic going on that bends reality in a more subtle and localised way.

          • darq
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            118 months ago

            No topic has ever gotten me into more D&D arguments than saying that a 10th level fighter should be able to fall off an airship, hit the ground and not immediately splat, but rather limp away from it after tanking the 20d6 damage.

            I want a squad of Dwarven Fighters to be able to leap off of the same airship and do a three-point landing, because what the hell would Dwarves need parachutes for?!

    • @doctorcrimson
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      28 months ago

      Its actually half damage if you pass. Half of 30d10.

  • SavvyWolf
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    408 months ago

    The description says it hits the ground, so all you have to do is jump at the exact right time.

  • You can’t dodge all the damage with most builds, but the damage is actually spread out over a short duration and you can use the i-frames in dodge to negate some of it.

  • @doctorcrimson
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    218 months ago

    It clearly states you still take damage if you pass, an almost certainly fatal amount. Basically your character hides in a fridge or something like Indiana Jones.

    • @AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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      178 months ago

      Improved Evasion. You take no damage if successful, and 50% on a failed DEX check. Utterly broken, especially when the Wizard realizes that their pseudodragon familiar is why they can suddenly dodge better than the rogue, though I think the pseudodragon was actually casting dimension door or something.

  • theodewere
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    168 months ago

    hey, if you’re not bothered by 15d10 dmg, i am impressed

  • Adlach
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    158 months ago

    15d10 damage on a successful save is still an average of 82.5 damage, or enough to kill a peasant 20.5 times over. I presume the Dex save is being able to find a relatively safe crevasse or something—the key word being “relative”, since they’ll still take enough damage to kill a rhino twice.

  • macniel
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    148 months ago

    What is a comet that can only deal up to 300 damage. Laughable.

    • @Aqarius@lemmy.world
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      88 months ago

      Honestly, a pretty good answer is that if the lower damage bound is 30, the “comet” just isn’t that big really.

      • @doctorcrimson
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        28 months ago

        Lower bound is actually 15 on successful saving throw.

    • @doctorcrimson
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      48 months ago

      I’ve never seen a PC with more than 200hp

  • I Cast Fist
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    128 months ago

    Don’t forget that rogues get that perk (level 10 I think?) where they always get half damage whenever it calls for a DEX save and zero damage if they succeed

  • @ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s like jumping out of a car at highway speeds vs. jumping out of a car at highway speeds, tucking, and rolling. Either way, you’ll be seriously hurt or killed, but one way is a little more likely to seriously hurt you and a little less likely to kill you than the other.

    • @flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
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      28 months ago

      Also it’s a world where one bardy boi singing real good has significant real life effects.

      Why shouldn’t someone be so good at dodging that they can evade half of the damage an explosion does?