handing people water while in line does not support a specific party
So, you’re right on the merits, but you’re wrong on the political strategy.
Long lines are a deliberate consequence of under-supplied polling locations. And under-supplied polling locations are a result of disenfranchisement efforts by incumbents. By subverting the intent of the incumbents to discourage voting, you are de facto in support of anti-incumbency candidates and are therefore breaking the spirit of the law.
You’ll note that the long-line polling locations also tend to be over-policed and over-surveilled precisely for the purpose of identifying edge-cases that violate the law and prosecuting it. Neighborhoods with richer and more incumbent-friendly voters tend to have a police presence more fixated on hedging out anti-incumbent protesters and keeping out people not registered to vote in these wealthy enclaves.
I just don’t agree with your assertion that voter disenfranchisement efforts are necessarily a function of an incumbent party. There are many politicians who want people to vote even if it’s not for them.
There are many politicians who want people to vote even if it’s not for them.
I’ve never met a politician that’s spent money or resources turning out voters for the opposition.
I’ll spot you that plenty of politicians are blasie about losing or so overconfident that they don’t see their defeat coming. Consequently, they don’t work to undermine election integrity deliberately. But any instance in which a politician or party seeks to disenfranchise the voting pool, it is consistently in defense of their partisan self-interest.
"There’s no such thing as a vote that doesn’t matter. It all matters.”— Barack Obama
“To vote is like the payment of a debt, a duty never to be neglected, if its performance is possible.” –Rutherford B. Hayes
“The future of this republic is in the hands of the American voter.” –Dwight D. Eisenhower
“Elections belong to the people. It’s their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters.” – Abraham Lincoln
“The vote is the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men.” –Lyndon B. Johnson
“Nobody will ever deprive the American people of the right to vote except the American people themselves, and the only way they could do this is by not voting.” –Franklin D. Roosevelt
“To vote is like the payment of a debt, a duty never to be neglected, if its performance is possible.” –Rutherford B. Hayes
Jesus Christ. Imagine knowing enough history to dig this quote out of the dumpster fire that is the Hayes legacy and neglecting HOW HE BECAME PRESIDENT.
Providing material aid to voters in line can be construed as electioneering. Even an unlabeled water bottle. It sucks, but it keeps the harrasing threatening bully types away from voter queue lines.
If water bottles are such a hot button issue we need to be discussing the mental fitness of adults who are unable to think ahead or bring their own supplies.
Do you support or condemn interfering with election processes?
Edit: I noticed no one is answering the question above.
In other countries going to vote is a sub-15 min task, you can do it on your way to work/school. in the US it can be a multi-hour experience which is designed to be as difficult as possible.
More older people vote than young people, so perhaps the whataboutism question here should be, “why do you want to torture older people?”
Yes, electioneering is illegal.
and which party is the dehydration party again?
Wait, what the fuck are you even talking about? Do you know what electioneering is?
in general it’s telling people who to vote for
in context it’s telling people who to vote for while in line
the “joke” I was making is that handing people water while in line does not support a specific party
So, you’re right on the merits, but you’re wrong on the political strategy.
Long lines are a deliberate consequence of under-supplied polling locations. And under-supplied polling locations are a result of disenfranchisement efforts by incumbents. By subverting the intent of the incumbents to discourage voting, you are de facto in support of anti-incumbency candidates and are therefore breaking the spirit of the law.
You’ll note that the long-line polling locations also tend to be over-policed and over-surveilled precisely for the purpose of identifying edge-cases that violate the law and prosecuting it. Neighborhoods with richer and more incumbent-friendly voters tend to have a police presence more fixated on hedging out anti-incumbent protesters and keeping out people not registered to vote in these wealthy enclaves.
I just don’t agree with your assertion that voter disenfranchisement efforts are necessarily a function of an incumbent party. There are many politicians who want people to vote even if it’s not for them.
I’ve never met a politician that’s spent money or resources turning out voters for the opposition.
I’ll spot you that plenty of politicians are blasie about losing or so overconfident that they don’t see their defeat coming. Consequently, they don’t work to undermine election integrity deliberately. But any instance in which a politician or party seeks to disenfranchise the voting pool, it is consistently in defense of their partisan self-interest.
"There’s no such thing as a vote that doesn’t matter. It all matters.”— Barack Obama
“To vote is like the payment of a debt, a duty never to be neglected, if its performance is possible.” –Rutherford B. Hayes
“The future of this republic is in the hands of the American voter.” –Dwight D. Eisenhower
“Elections belong to the people. It’s their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters.” – Abraham Lincoln
“The vote is the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men.” –Lyndon B. Johnson
“Nobody will ever deprive the American people of the right to vote except the American people themselves, and the only way they could do this is by not voting.” –Franklin D. Roosevelt
Jesus Christ. Imagine knowing enough history to dig this quote out of the dumpster fire that is the Hayes legacy and neglecting HOW HE BECAME PRESIDENT.
Providing material aid to voters in line can be construed as electioneering. Even an unlabeled water bottle. It sucks, but it keeps the harrasing threatening bully types away from voter queue lines.
no, it does not. this is a false narrative designed to obfuscate voter suppression.
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If water bottles are such a hot button issue we need to be discussing the mental fitness of adults who are unable to think ahead or bring their own supplies.
Do you support or condemn interfering with election processes?
Edit: I noticed no one is answering the question above.
Some voters in Houston were stuck in excessively long lines and were forced to wait more than six hours to cast their ballots.
Stupid voters should have known better. It’s their own fault.
If you need to wait in line to vote maybe your country is already a failed democracy, at which point let the people get their fucking water
In other countries going to vote is a sub-15 min task, you can do it on your way to work/school. in the US it can be a multi-hour experience which is designed to be as difficult as possible.
More older people vote than young people, so perhaps the whataboutism question here should be, “why do you want to torture older people?”
What in the strawman? You are fucked in the head
buddy you just did the same thing to me.
I absolutely did not. Work on your reading comprehension and civics.
Only by the stupid.
There was literally harassment in this presidential election the fuck you on about?
https://bridgingdivides.princeton.edu/analysis-threat-and-harassment-data-2024-election
Those laws exist to suppress voters.