https://lemmy.world/post/27952024/16349639

lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad users verbally fellate contemporary and historical autocratic mass-murderers they deem to be “leftists”, most recently being Vladimir Putin, Xi Jingping, and Kim Jong Un.

They are, in reality, bitch-made invertebrates who don’t even have the arm-strength to lift their Molotov-sippy-cups out of their premium-outdoor-brand backpacks, let alone form meaningful opinions on economics, political philosophy, or geopolitical reality.

        • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
          45·
          8 days ago

          They just assume that because they don’t know any trans people, there’s no way so many folks are trans in one place online.

        • Diva [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          13·
          7 days ago

          I think it’s just their internal rationalization for why it’s okay to misgender people they disagree with, and then if you ask them to stop that’s just more evidence for them that you’re trolling. catgirl-flop

        • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          5·
          7 days ago

          Even more than that, let’s actually assume for the sake of argument that in some sense, this was the case for a nonzero number of posters:

          • Maybe in 20 years time, there’s a new word to describe some other very real type of dysphoria, and it turned out that, say, a hypothetical trans woman on here was actually a cis woman with zero gender feelings at all (there is somehow zero overlap between this hypothetical dysphoria and gender dysphoria) and only this dysphoria. She just really needed another person to talk to about her experience who could relate at all, but she felt compelled to restate things in terms of gender instead.
          • Maybe it turns out that, say, a hypothetical cis man on here was only dissatisfied with the cultural baggage tied to masculinity, but he ultimately needed the space to explore their gender identity and realize they felt like being a man best described him after all.
          • Maybe it’s something else I can’t think of right now.

          Does any of these scenarios actually justify treating those people any differently than someone who definitely is transgender? I don’t see why any reasonable person should come to that conclusion.

    • WizardOfLoneliness [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      41·
      8 days ago

      the most that can be said is people saying he was right about shit he said, which is like, idk, sorry but sometimes bad people make statements about the world and events that are accurate to reality??

      but these are the people who are like “j.d. vance called the chinese peasants… does not… compute… how to defend China, when china bad? but. orange man say china bad, orange man bad… could china be good??” so I’m really over giving a shit their illiterate shit lib asses think

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        48·
        8 days ago

        Media: “Putin delivers deranged anti-American tirade!”

        Putin’s tirade: “The US has repeatedly meddled in the affairs of other nations.”

        Me: edgeworth-shrug

        Libs: “You are gay for a dictator.”

      • XiaCobolt [undecided, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        40·
        8 days ago

        sorry but sometimes bad people make statements about the world and events that are accurate to reality??

        In particular guys like Putin, Lukashenko, (and funnily enough Orban) having come up through a communist party in their youth and being taught dialectical and historical materialism, will often very accurately outline the material factors leading to current events in speeches or interview, it’s at the last moment where they pivot and say something self-serving and reactionary.

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        33·
        8 days ago

        sometimes bad people make statements about the world and events that are accurate to reality

        Kissinger had a pretty good idea about not escalating to nuclear confrontation between the USA and USSR and he was a demon and everyone here hates his extremely dead guts.

        But I doubt anyone here would advocate for annihilating countless millions in nuclear hellfire just to oppose Henry Kissinger.

        • huf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          12·
          8 days ago

          no, that sort of thing is something the libs do, when they for example make a video about nuclear holocaust not being that bad after all, and anyway, russia’s nukes dont work because lol russia

      • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]@hexbear.netEnglish
        37·
        8 days ago

        I should have been more clear, critical support is one thing (they seem to think the ‘critical’ means “omg we need to send our love now!”), but year we are hardly the mega fans they pretend we are

        • Cadende [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          36·
          8 days ago

          liberals also love to conflate the individual leader with the country and its entire state apparatus. critical support for the actions of russia combatting nato encroachment doesn’t mean that we think putin personally is a great guy. I mean shit any competent leader in his shoes would have been pushed pretty strongly towards action by the material circumstances and the ongoing actions of the US in and via ukraine. But honestly he’s irrelevant and we aren’t making a moral judgement

    • corvidenjoyer [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      19·
      8 days ago

      The fact that we only have one Putin emote putin-wink unironically says alot. There’s not alot to joke about him unless you genuinely like him. No real enthusam for even a wide putin emote. (When would that even be use enough to justify an emote?)

      Meanwhile theres like a page or two devoted to Biden and Trump. biden-leftist why-angel biden-harbinger joever trump-feed trump-moist cheeto-man trump-death-note trump-yassified feast-1feast-2 thicc-trump brump

    • Losurdo_Enjoyer [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      12·
      8 days ago

      there’s like 2 people on the site i would say are even close to being “pro-putin”, and 1 of them im not even sure if they’re around anymore (zposter and zed proclaimer, for the record. zposter is still here, i have no clue what happened to zed proclaimer after he got banned and then one of his alts got banned)

  • Anarcho-Bolshevik@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    56·
    8 days ago

    You can tell that this macho man almost threw in some potshots at us about how we’re all limp-wristed sissies who like to wear dresses and paint our nails, but he hastily edited them out before submitting because they would have made his misogyny too obvious.

    • corvidenjoyer [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      19·
      8 days ago

      You can tell that this macho man almost threw in some potshots at us about how we’re all limp-wristed sissies who like to wear dresses and paint our nails, but he hastily edited them out

      Pity. Being able to respond to the above with a simple. soviet-chad would’ve been funny.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      51·
      8 days ago

      Invertebrates don’t have skulls to measure. If you threaten me with calipers I will scuttle away, and, if threatened, make a facsimile hissing noise by pushing air through holes in my carapace.

  • xiaohongshu2 [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    47·
    8 days ago

    This is so pathetic. You should not take them seriously however, giving people like this energy is futile as they will never change their minds. I think it is funny they call Xi a mass murderer possibly over the alleged ethnic cleansing of the Uyghur populace. I have family in and around Xinjiang and I will be visiting Ürümqi soon, I would invite them to see these alleged “concentration camps.” It is quite ironic Gaza has been an open air prison for decades but they stay silent… but fabricated reports that mass detainees are being corralled and sentenced to these camps must be a fact. I was hopeful during the tariff trade war that people were more positive on China but I do not think they care so much now that the market is “back to normal.”

    • Losurdo_Enjoyer [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      18·
      8 days ago

      I have family in and around Xinjiang and I will be visiting Ürümqi soon,

      you should upload a little vlog of your visit there on tankietube (/jk … unless…?)

  • Carl [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    47·
    8 days ago

    premium-outdoor-brand backpacks

    this is a minor point but I got a free gym bag like ten or fifteen years ago that is still my go-to day bag when I need one

    • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      14·
      8 days ago

      Before we got gifted two baby bags for my little human I was using a cloth shopping bag to carry my stuff around in if i went to a TCG tournament or whatever.

      Baby bag backpack has so many little compartments dawg it’s actually sick

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    46·
    8 days ago

    these people invoke Putin’s name like he’s a demon or malign spirit who will ruin your crops. They can’t wrap their head around the idea that he’s more or less a normal capitalist politician, or that you can talk about him in objective terms. They conflate that with support or admiration. You can’t at all try to understand Putin as a human, or Russia as a country that operates on the basis of various internal/external forces. No, Russia is a metaphysical beast and Putin is Dr. Evil.

    i hate this strain of brainworms so much. Complete disregard or hatred of other countries. Their complaints about supposed tankies all have to do with not having the correct type of nationalism. We don’t spit on non-western countries enough, so that’s the main problem they have with us. I wish they would just outright say it. I wish they would say what they’re truly thinking, that western white nations are morally superior and should dictate the terms of the world instead of other countries.

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    44·
    8 days ago

    @RustyShackleford@literature.cafe @RustyShackleford@discuss.online @RustyShackleford@lemmy.wtf @RustyShackleford@hexbear.net @RustyShackelford@hexbear.net

    Why do you have so many names on different servers? Including ours. It’s real obnoxious pinging all of them. I see you got banned here 5 years ago on one of them though so we’ve been living rent free in your head for a long time.

    Anyway you might want to call out the UK Durham Miner’s Gala

    and the entirety of the UK union movement

    Also Jeremy Corbyn

    And so on and so on, all for being in attendance and celebrating Lenin and waving communist flags.

    Or maybe you could learn something about the left and these historic figures? Their theory. Their work. And why they’re not monsters at all.

    Anyway fuck it. This isn’t really for you it’s for anyone else onlooking, we all know you’re not capable of learning anything at all.

    EDIT: Scan read Vladimir and mind filled in the blanks “Lenin”. Oh well post is still relevant anyway.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      23·
      8 days ago

      “I’m not a misogynist. I just call women misogynistic insults.”.

      And of course they go mask off with what they mean when they call women “Karen.” It’s become a synonym for female dog and Australian genitalia euphemisms, but without actually saying what they mean.