You don’t think the men and women of La Résistance were allergic to lead? You don’t think they fought knowing that getting shot, or captured, tortured and then shot was a very real possibility?
The problem is that unorganized resistance is impossible. It will result in martyrs and nothing more. No one wants to be a martyr for a doomed cause except fanatics who aren’t much use to anyone. And most people are willing to endure extreme pains if it means they get to live. The tipping point comes when there is a plausible way out through resistance. That has not yet show itself.
Organizing is difficult because it must be secret. The US government is proficient in infiltrating and destroying organized resistance and countering the same. (See all the revolutions it has fucked over the years.) An open rebellion will be quashed immediately with the media demonizing any participants.
To the extent that there is a successful or potentially successful resistance, we will not hear about it until it makes a major move. It will then be destroyed or rallied behind depending on how it deals with propoganda and whether it can garner general public support.
A military coup by a high ranking officer who takes their oath to uphold the constitution seriously is more likely to succeed. But such a person is likely not to exist because of the right wing nature of the military in the US.
If things keep going how they are going the rest of the world will need to take military action to end it a la WW1 and 2.
Most foreigners are putting the blame on potential allies in the US for not acting fast enough thus helping to fracture any movement before it can begin.
Billionaires have been bribing American politicians at a much higher rate than European politicians. Do you think that has something to do with the republicans dismantling regulations for the past 50 years, while Democrats have only focused on social inclusion of minority groups and completely neglected to fight against the billionaires trying to own the world?
Republicans are pure stupid-greed and democrats are too spineless to say anything other than “where’s my cut”. Third party is seen as throwing out your vote as they never pull enough support. The safety rails in law, the rule of law, and balances of power are gone at the federal level.
The only hope I have left is big money removes Trump (IE. buys impeachment votes out of republicans) and his sycophants are too incompetent and hated to get reelected without the cult head, or a blood vessel in his pea brain pops and he drops dead. That may just get us semi competent dictator Vance instead.
I don’t think Americans can overthrow America.
With what happened last years election and what Trump as been saying out in the open, I don’t know if an election will be fair or honored. I think were sinking fast, sold the buckets, and set the lifeboats on fire to try to stay dry.
If we are solely looking at mainstream media, then there is very little coverage of protest in the US itself. We get more coverage on us Europeans, Canadians and Australians boycotting US made goods. Therefore, it might look like Americans aren’t really doing much. Of course, most of us know that’s not the case.
We have a large population that totally checks out of politics. There lives are rarely effected all that much by it… Until now. People are starting to wake up, the tides are beginning to change. It’s happening a lot slower then it should have, and it’s scary how far this regime is getting before we get our shit together, but it is slowly happening.
Wish you all luck over there, let’s hope this results in something that kills bi-party-system and rather than getting a one party system, it gets a 20 party system.
Can recommend swiss voting system, I really like that system (of course, it has many flaws as well, but I have not seen a better system yet)
I fear there might be too many people that will just want to go back to status quo, and not change things to prevent this from happening again. Especially since the banks and corporations will be wanting nothing to fundamentally change so they can keep exploiting people.
Do the American really just whine about it and not doing anything about it?
I am allergic to getting shot.
You don’t think the men and women of La Résistance were allergic to lead? You don’t think they fought knowing that getting shot, or captured, tortured and then shot was a very real possibility?
The problem is that unorganized resistance is impossible. It will result in martyrs and nothing more. No one wants to be a martyr for a doomed cause except fanatics who aren’t much use to anyone. And most people are willing to endure extreme pains if it means they get to live. The tipping point comes when there is a plausible way out through resistance. That has not yet show itself.
Organizing is difficult because it must be secret. The US government is proficient in infiltrating and destroying organized resistance and countering the same. (See all the revolutions it has fucked over the years.) An open rebellion will be quashed immediately with the media demonizing any participants.
To the extent that there is a successful or potentially successful resistance, we will not hear about it until it makes a major move. It will then be destroyed or rallied behind depending on how it deals with propoganda and whether it can garner general public support.
A military coup by a high ranking officer who takes their oath to uphold the constitution seriously is more likely to succeed. But such a person is likely not to exist because of the right wing nature of the military in the US.
If things keep going how they are going the rest of the world will need to take military action to end it a la WW1 and 2.
Most foreigners are putting the blame on potential allies in the US for not acting fast enough thus helping to fracture any movement before it can begin.
Yes, let all the other people fix it. Let me guess, you didn’t vote either?
I voted but a billionaire unironically bribed people to vote against me. The remaining options are grim and not enough people are at that point.
Billionaires have been bribing American politicians at a much higher rate than European politicians. Do you think that has something to do with the republicans dismantling regulations for the past 50 years, while Democrats have only focused on social inclusion of minority groups and completely neglected to fight against the billionaires trying to own the world?
Republicans are pure stupid-greed and democrats are too spineless to say anything other than “where’s my cut”. Third party is seen as throwing out your vote as they never pull enough support. The safety rails in law, the rule of law, and balances of power are gone at the federal level.
The only hope I have left is big money removes Trump (IE. buys impeachment votes out of republicans) and his sycophants are too incompetent and hated to get reelected without the cult head, or a blood vessel in his pea brain pops and he drops dead. That may just get us semi competent dictator Vance instead.
I don’t think Americans can overthrow America.
With what happened last years election and what Trump as been saying out in the open, I don’t know if an election will be fair or honored. I think were sinking fast, sold the buckets, and set the lifeboats on fire to try to stay dry.
Do non americans just ignore all the protests happening in america and pretend we’re not doing anything?
If we are solely looking at mainstream media, then there is very little coverage of protest in the US itself. We get more coverage on us Europeans, Canadians and Australians boycotting US made goods. Therefore, it might look like Americans aren’t really doing much. Of course, most of us know that’s not the case.
I was referring to the meme as the girl there is just whining and is not getting stuff done
We saw the April demo, yes, but where is the ultimatum?
It’s been three months. Things move fast on the internet but it’s important to keep some perspective.
The resistance movement is growing.
We have a large population that totally checks out of politics. There lives are rarely effected all that much by it… Until now. People are starting to wake up, the tides are beginning to change. It’s happening a lot slower then it should have, and it’s scary how far this regime is getting before we get our shit together, but it is slowly happening.
😄good to hear!
Wish you all luck over there, let’s hope this results in something that kills bi-party-system and rather than getting a one party system, it gets a 20 party system.
Can recommend swiss voting system, I really like that system (of course, it has many flaws as well, but I have not seen a better system yet)
I fear there might be too many people that will just want to go back to status quo, and not change things to prevent this from happening again. Especially since the banks and corporations will be wanting nothing to fundamentally change so they can keep exploiting people.
But hopefully I’m just being pessimistic