• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    I mean the problem with liberals is not that they focus on reforms, but that they don’t follow through on those reforms; if they did they’d be some variant of social democrats. The real problem is how they, like conservatives, are worshippers of capital who think society should be subservient to the whims of the ultra-rich—just, you know, with a few gentlemen’s agreements baked in.

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      The so-called “social democrats” in Germany have aa neoliberal program, just like the rest of the party landscape in Germany. I can’t imagine it being any different in the rest of Europe.

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        That’s true, but only because the German SDP relatively recently (in the 2000s if I understood the Wikipedia article right) adopted neoliberalism as opposed to its historical platform of Keynesian social democracy. For most of their history they were very much non-liberal social democrats.