Westfield is but one example of an issue all school districts are grappling with as the omnipresence of technology — including artificial intelligence — impacts students’ lives, the district’s superintendent Raymond González said in a statement.

  • @EatYouWell@lemmy.world
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    Regulation isn’t going to stop this from happening, especially since there’s a company who is going to build fleets of AI processing barges to float in international waters to bypass this exact type of regulation.

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      Not to mention it’s already quite easy to run a local generative AI on a modest gaming PC, and it’s only going to get easier.

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      barges to float in international waters

      International waters don’t bring you money.

      Regulation needs to grab them by the money. When making these pics is a crime and that company is aiding to a crime, then an authority can take away all their money or even forbid them business at all. Then they are going to start to think.

      But it needs legislation that really means it, and leaves no loopholes.

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      And then that fleet will sell access to children? Isn’t that a bit disconnected from the specifics of the topic?

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    I feel like they said the same thing about Photoshop.

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      Photoshop was always something that required skill, and a computer to run it, and a copy of a paid program.

      This stuff does not need a lot of those hurdles. It’s all about ease and how it’s usable on your pocket computer that you and all your classmates have with you all the time.

      Your thought is still a fair one to have. But there are big differences between what was and this new stuff. In the past you woulda needed a ton more skill and the alignment of a bunch of things to casually generate fake nudes like the ones covered by this article.

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          Sweet. Me too. In the 90s. This is partially where I draw my understanding of the situation from.

          Specifically:

          • The idea that piracy of professional software isn’t as casual as phone apps or web apps.
          • The fact that it’s paid software that is professional software with a learning curve.
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        You need a hell of a lot more computer power to run a llm than you do photoshop.

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          While true, you can generate AI images with a potato, it just takes longer. For my setup, stable diffusion on my RTX 3060 generates the basic image in around 10 seconds while running on CPU only takes around five minutes, but the result is exactly the same.

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            Do the files exactly match to their hashes? I wonder if there’s a fundamental difference generated by using different hardwares.

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              AI always generate different outputs for the same input (AI appears to be non-deterministic) so it would be impossible to confirm that exactly.

              But I suppose what they mean is they appear to be of the same quality. Taking a longer time does not appear to decrease the quality of the output.

              I suppose you could give an AI the same input resetting it after each input and then use statistical models to identify common traits. Then do the same thing on different hardware and run the same statistical analysis and see if there is a difference between group A in group B but as far as I’m aware no one has done this.

              In theory hardware shouldn’t matter, it’s all mathematics basically and one plus one is always equal two, so there shouldn’t be any fluctuations.

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                Yes, I suppose given equal input (model, keyword, seed, etc.) two Stable Diffusion installs should output same images; what I am curious about is whether the hardware configuration (e.g. gpu manufacturers) could result in traceable variations. As abuse of this tech gains prominence, tracing back the producer of a certain synthetic media by the specific hardware combination could become a thing.

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                  While it could work like bullet forensics, where given access to the gun you can shoot it and compare it to the original bullet, there is no way to look at a generated image and figure out exactly what made it as there are simply way too many variables and random influences. Well, unless the creator is dumb enough to keep the metadata enabled, by default automatic1111 stable diffusion embeds all of it in the file itself as a png comment thingy.

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            Which server run model allows pornography of this type?

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      Or unregulated canvas sales and (gasp) artists who paint for money.

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    “knife stabbings done with [new alloy] knives shows that [new alloy] is a major threat to society, spokesman says, and remind people to pretend that knife stabbings is a completely new thing that didn’t exist before”

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      Deepfakes are nothing new but the ease of access to said tools these days and its popularity are definitely something to be concerned about. Don’t downplay it.

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        What a brilliant counterpoint.

        It’s a fair arguement, possibly naive but it’s not as if you couldn’t do this with standard photo manipulation software already. Also the kids are been panicky and stupid why are they paying up they know it isn’t them, if they just calm down and took a breath and thought about it for 10 seconds they’d realise that actually there is no threat.

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          No, it is not fair argument. New alloy doesn’t change how knife operate and isn’t going to increase number of knife attacks by an order of several magnitudes.

          This will. Because good photoshop work was skill that took time to master, while now it can be done by any random moron.

          Your other argument is dumb as well. People have a right to not having their face photoshopped onto random naked body. Whether it is really your body or not is not necessary to make you uncomfortable.

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    Harassment is wrong whether you’re doing it with Stable Diffusion or passing notes with rude cartoons.

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        Imagine if word processors or email clients refused to let you write malicious or hostile messages. I don’t think that would be an improvement.

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    Look that’s nice and all, but it’s not going away and it’s only going to get worse. The age of fake AI porn is only beginning. Full-on porn videos where you can take a couple of photos of someone and the AI will build a model of the person and insert them into the porn video is coming. Whether this is done for laughs, from embarrassment, or because it’s sexy doesn’t matter.

    This genie is not going back in the bottle. This is only the tip of the iceberg. We are moving towards an age where you will be able to have virtual sex with anyone you want as long as you have a picture or video of them. VR sex and a porn game that can map someone into a character isn’t that far away. It really doesn’t harm anyone if we quit being such prudes.

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      It’ll end up just being an extension of the “don’t tell someone randomly that you have fantasies about them”. You keep your AI masturbation habits between you, the AI, and the tech companies and government agencies spying on your masturbation habits.

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      Its not about proving if its fake or not. Would you be willing to go to school when you know there are people sitting next to you who made or have seen and shared deepfakes of you? It is disgusting and a terrible experience that can’t be solved by just saying its fake.

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          These are young kids. They don’t have the tools to necessarily desk with this as an adult would. It’s still weird as fuck and embarrassing for them.

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