• Dragonstaff@leminal.space
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    2 days ago

    Are you trying to say we can’t have universal healthcare without leftist authoritarianism or do you not know what a “tankie” is?

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      A) yes, it is impossible to reform an embedded regime of wealth. You need revolution, which will likely require tanks even in the age of drones.

      B) tankie is anything to the left of burning children alive for warmth, at least how it’s used on this site.

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        A) yes, it is impossible to reform an embedded regime of wealth. You need revolution, which will likely require tanks even in the age of drones.

        Plenty of countries managed to enact universal health care coverage, facing down the same embedded regime of wealthy special interests, without full revolution. You’re just flat out wrong.

        B) tankie is anything to the left of burning children alive for warmth, at least how it’s used on this site.

        Lol k

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          Plenty of countries managed to enact universal

          And those countries have tanks

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          A) those countries had far less embedded capitalists. They did not reform, they advanced in a linear direction.

          B) you’re a north American, half of you are fascists and the other half are conservative Catholics. Don’t you people specifically still kill native women so regularly there’s multiple euphemisms about it?

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            Don’t you people specifically still kill native women so regularly there’s multiple euphemisms about it?

            I can’t say this is familiar to me, at all.

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              Any Canadian that doesn’t know about ‘starlight tours’ at this point is either sheltered or willfully ignorant to the plight of native women in Canada.

              Canada has this nice image and all, but they’re still committing genocide.

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            A) those countries had far less embedded capitalists. They did not reform, they advanced in a linear direction.

            This is based on literally nothing. The way that health care was funded and delivered was reformed completely, many times in many countries, and was opposed on exactly the same lines, and that opposition was overcome. Your insistence that the whole system must be torn down or whatever is without rational or historical backing, and will guarantee failure.

            B) you’re a north American, half of you are fascists and the other half are conservative Catholics. Don’t you people specifically still kill native women so regularly there’s multiple euphemisms about it?

            Nobody knows what you’re talking about, including you.

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              A) no it wasn’t. The vast majority of healthcare reforms in the EU took place shortly after WWII and explicitly due to the fact fascism was fresh in everyone’s mind so they could just remind everyone of nazi healthcare practices.

              B) Assuming you’re on ca due to your location, look up literally anything about native Americans in your country since you failed to learn about it in school (or went to school before courses on actual Canadians were added). Starlight tours still happen to this day and native women still disproportionately ‘go missing.’

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                A) no it wasn’t. The vast majority of healthcare reforms in the EU took place shortly after WWII and explicitly due to the fact fascism was fresh in everyone’s mind so they could just remind everyone of nazi healthcare practices.

                Literally has nothing to do with anything. Sane people realize that a fundamental shift in how health care is managed and delivered constitutes a reform. You only need to invoke the Nazis and all this other bullshit because if you stick to the facts you’ve got nothing.

                B) Assuming you’re on ca due to your location, look up literally anything about native Americans in your country since you failed to learn about it in school (or went to school before courses on actual Canadians were added). Starlight tours still happen to this day and native women still disproportionately ‘go missing.’

                Literally has nothing to do with anything.

                Par for the course for the “burn down everything” people.