Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.
Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion
Edit2: IP= intellectal property
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I bet you’d change your mind if you were personally in enough pain.
I’ve answered responses along those lines a couple times at this point. My position is that pain is a bit like mind control; you probably could get me to change my mind that way, but the reason for doing so wouldn’t be anything to do with the reasons why I think this stuff unethical and everything to do with the way sufficient pain overrides one’s normal thinking and forces you to pay attention to it.
“Someone/something could torture you into changing your mind” doesn’t say anything about how right or wrong the original position is, you could probably torture someone into believing the earth is flat if you kept at it long enough and the victim wasn’t unusually strong willed, but that doesn’t make it so.
It’s true, that doesn’t prove anything exactly. Your position is intellectually self-consistent. It’s more that I suspect you’d re-asses aliveness as a good basis for ethics with that source of information.
Okay, I’ll revise that to “I bet if you hung out with other people in unbearable suffering for long enough, you’d change your mind”. With “long enough” being anything from days to decades depending on your own compassion:conviction ratio.