A lot of American unions are bad and just work as an extension of HR to subdue unrest on behalf of the business.
I’ve been in teachers unions, and, from my experience, they really go to bat for you if you’re having an issue.
It’s important to note, though, that the reason American unions are so bad is not a coincidence or cultural quirk. It’s a direct result of policies that are meant to strangle unions.
Regardless of whether or not the unions have been neutered or captured, they are still the best type of organization to fight for worker rights. There’s really no other option to stand up to wide-scaled exploitation.
It isn’t if the membership is 30€ per month and the union isn’t going to do jack shit for you because they’re corrupt
This is obviously correct but it’s also like saying “eating is bad for you because I heard someone spent 30 bucks on rotten food and died.”
It’s intellectually dishonest and I don’t think you’re dumb.
It is if it costs 30 a month but you make 300 a month more than your non union peers. Find me a better investment opportunity than that. If I could turn 30 bucks into 300 bucks why wouldn’t I? That’s the biggest no brainer ever.
Folks who talk like this have literally never interacted with a union. If your union is taking your money and doing nothing in return, get rid of them. It’s your union. You and your co workers can vote to decertify or find a new rep. Unions aren’t chosen by the company they’re chosen by the workers.
The stats are against you anyway. Around the world Union workers make more than non union workers. That’s just facts even after dues.
This times a million. Your union is not a third party, it’s you and your coworkers. Union dues are the collective resources you and your coworkers put together to fight the boss and protect your rights. Its so the boss cant say “I changed my mind, here’s what’s happening now” because they will do that shit all the time even when you have a contract. You need a strike fund, a lawyer, a staff organizer to support and train you and no dues means none of these exist. Then your boss can do whatever cause “what are you gonna do about it”
You’re literally idealizing unions. You just have an uninformed idea of what they are.
Well, I was just responding to the original post
It isn’t if the membership is 30€ per month and the union isn’t going to do jack shit for you because they’re corrupt
A lot of American unions are bad and just work as an extension of HR to subdue unrest on behalf of the business.
I’ve been in teachers unions, and, from my experience, they really go to bat for you if you’re having an issue.
It’s important to note, though, that the reason American unions are so bad is not a coincidence or cultural quirk. It’s a direct result of policies that are meant to strangle unions.
Regardless of whether or not the unions have been neutered or captured, they are still the best type of organization to fight for worker rights. There’s really no other option to stand up to wide-scaled exploitation.
This is obviously correct but it’s also like saying “eating is bad for you because I heard someone spent 30 bucks on rotten food and died.” It’s intellectually dishonest and I don’t think you’re dumb.
It is if it costs 30 a month but you make 300 a month more than your non union peers. Find me a better investment opportunity than that. If I could turn 30 bucks into 300 bucks why wouldn’t I? That’s the biggest no brainer ever.
Folks who talk like this have literally never interacted with a union. If your union is taking your money and doing nothing in return, get rid of them. It’s your union. You and your co workers can vote to decertify or find a new rep. Unions aren’t chosen by the company they’re chosen by the workers.
The stats are against you anyway. Around the world Union workers make more than non union workers. That’s just facts even after dues.
Unions aren’t supposed to do things “for you”, you ARE the union
This times a million. Your union is not a third party, it’s you and your coworkers. Union dues are the collective resources you and your coworkers put together to fight the boss and protect your rights. Its so the boss cant say “I changed my mind, here’s what’s happening now” because they will do that shit all the time even when you have a contract. You need a strike fund, a lawyer, a staff organizer to support and train you and no dues means none of these exist. Then your boss can do whatever cause “what are you gonna do about it”
Fucking treat brained Americans man. Someone else has to do all the work
You’re seriously complaining about 30€ a month?