Perhaps not in that specific strike, but I hope you aren’t minimizing the civilian deaths caused by Ukraine over the last decade of conflict. If so, there are a lot of people in Luhansk and Donetsk who would disagree if they hadn’t been on the wrong end of Ukrainian artillery.
Unlike Russia, Ukraine mostly only targets military facilities. Of course there could be civilian casualties, like maybe in the oil refineries they bombed inside Russia, but they DON’T target civilians, but the strategic positions which may have civilians. Meanwhile Russia DOES target civilians in hospitals and schools.
I admit there are probably civilian casualties caused by Ukraine, but its an ant. Now lets address the elephant in the room: Russian caused civilian casualties and war crimes.
It doesn’t say much, but the title explicitly says Russian war crimes. Though the article does not explain what war crimes Russia has committed, I chose the FBI’s government website so that you don’t imply its an untrusted source. Of course there are many other sources that cover this, since you can just google it (or Firefox it since we are in the fediverse) and there will be thousands of evidence, but you are just to lazy to research yourself.
Yes I already addressed this, if you read my previous comments:
‘Of course just saying “the other guys are worse” is problematic, but I repeat Ukrainian soldiers did not try to hurt civilians.’
What I am saying is not simply that Russia killed more civilians so Ukraine is ok. I am saying that Ukrainian’s attacks are fundamentally different since they target strategic positions (which may or may not have civilians) rather than targeting civilian infrastructure. Ukrainian attacks are accepted by NATO and does not violate any international laws. In fact a lot of Ukrainian soldiers were trained by NATO countries and follow their rules and standards.
Ukrainian soldiers were trained by NATO countries and follow their rules and standards.
Lol, imagine thinking NATO doesn’t commit war crimes lol
Ukraine systemically and deliberately shelled civilians for years. Your ignorance of the facts doesn’t erase them.
Imagine thinking you can tell a literal tankie something about a conflict they have been following for a fucking decade lol.
Edit. You don’t oppose warcrimes. You only oppose whatever you can call a warcrime committed by the other team. And again, an American (I assume) with the blood of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians on their hands has no room to moralize.
NATO basically dictates what is considered a war crime and dictates international laws and trains their military accordingly. It is the most ethical military there is. Of course it may not be perfect, but its the best we’ve got.
I guess you have your own definition of war crimes and international laws that is better than NATO which is a literal tankie that studies war and international laws.
Ukraine does not target civilians, if you ask anyone aside from the kremlin of course. (Are you getting your information from the kremlin?) 🧐
Never trust anyone that says their army is the most moral.
Your comment comes down too, “as the soul arbiters of what is moral we have investigated ourselves on found ourselves to be the most moral.” It’s circular logic.
Imagine thinking in English speaker on the western internet isn’t already familiar with the liberal propaganda surrounding this war lol
Imagine claiming NATO is The most moral military force on the planet, right after this administration bragged about killing 60 innocent people in an apartment building to target one man in Ansarallah’s missile program on a group chat.
Perhaps not in that specific strike, but I hope you aren’t minimizing the civilian deaths caused by Ukraine over the last decade of conflict. If so, there are a lot of people in Luhansk and Donetsk who would disagree if they hadn’t been on the wrong end of Ukrainian artillery.
Unlike Russia, Ukraine mostly only targets military facilities. Of course there could be civilian casualties, like maybe in the oil refineries they bombed inside Russia, but they DON’T target civilians, but the strategic positions which may have civilians. Meanwhile Russia DOES target civilians in hospitals and schools.
I admit there are probably civilian casualties caused by Ukraine, but its an ant. Now lets address the elephant in the room: Russian caused civilian casualties and war crimes.
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I am surprised you haven’t heard of it, for I constantly see people talking about it.
Well here is the FBI talking about the war crimes Russia has done: https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/international-human-rights-unit/russian-war-crimes-in-ukraine
It doesn’t say much, but the title explicitly says Russian war crimes. Though the article does not explain what war crimes Russia has committed, I chose the FBI’s government website so that you don’t imply its an untrusted source. Of course there are many other sources that cover this, since you can just google it (or Firefox it since we are in the fediverse) and there will be thousands of evidence, but you are just to lazy to research yourself.
I don’t think anyone on the anglonet has any room to condemn any other nation.
Russian crimes do not excuse Ukraine’s. This is whataboutism.
Yes I already addressed this, if you read my previous comments: ‘Of course just saying “the other guys are worse” is problematic, but I repeat Ukrainian soldiers did not try to hurt civilians.’
What I am saying is not simply that Russia killed more civilians so Ukraine is ok. I am saying that Ukrainian’s attacks are fundamentally different since they target strategic positions (which may or may not have civilians) rather than targeting civilian infrastructure. Ukrainian attacks are accepted by NATO and does not violate any international laws. In fact a lot of Ukrainian soldiers were trained by NATO countries and follow their rules and standards.
Lol, imagine thinking NATO doesn’t commit war crimes lol
Ukraine systemically and deliberately shelled civilians for years. Your ignorance of the facts doesn’t erase them.
Imagine thinking you can tell a literal tankie something about a conflict they have been following for a fucking decade lol.
Edit. You don’t oppose warcrimes. You only oppose whatever you can call a warcrime committed by the other team. And again, an American (I assume) with the blood of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians on their hands has no room to moralize.
NATO basically dictates what is considered a war crime and dictates international laws and trains their military accordingly. It is the most ethical military there is. Of course it may not be perfect, but its the best we’ve got.
I guess you have your own definition of war crimes and international laws that is better than NATO which is a literal tankie that studies war and international laws.
Ukraine does not target civilians, if you ask anyone aside from the kremlin of course. (Are you getting your information from the kremlin?) 🧐
Never trust anyone that says their army is the most moral.
Your comment comes down too, “as the soul arbiters of what is moral we have investigated ourselves on found ourselves to be the most moral.” It’s circular logic.
Imagine thinking in English speaker on the western internet isn’t already familiar with the liberal propaganda surrounding this war lol
Imagine claiming NATO is The most moral military force on the planet, right after this administration bragged about killing 60 innocent people in an apartment building to target one man in Ansarallah’s missile program on a group chat.