I’m not saying it will never happen but just wait and see where we are in like 5 years. People are acting like they’ll be able to play the new Mario Kart on their computer this time next year

Who knows what kind of nasty DRM they’ve got running this time around even if people can find a way to hack the console and dump games

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    Yeah, it’s like hubris mixed with group psychology (a lot of “we’s” gettin’ used) mixed with weird (over-)entitlement. Also see it be used in a semi-ableist way were people say it’ll be some autistic person who cracks it (either custom firmware or emulation) and stuff and they’ll just wait for them to do all the work for them. Like autistic people are their treat servants.

    Online gamers are like this with Denuvo and video game DRM and piracy stuff too. As if piracy hasn’t gotten harder in the past 30 years and people are torrenting less and less. People used to distribute Amiga game cracks on floppies pretty openly and now you need to get a VPN or get on private trackers sometimes . We are not winning right now. We can’t even convince people to play the original Paper Mario: TTYD, a lot of people demanded it be ported to Switch before they’d replay it or try it for the first time.

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      I looked it up and apparently there has been no new crack of a Denuvo game in over a year. The strategy is to hope that it gets removed later and then cracked or that a game is on GamePass. If Denuvo’s license fees were lower or other DRM catches up piracy would be limited to old games and publishers/devs that don’t do DRM for internet cred

      Doesn’t stop people from acting like it’s 2010

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    On one hand they do seem to be taking extra DRM steps this time with the cartridges only containing a download key.

    On the other hand Nintendo also tend to make really trivial mistakes that blow their consoles wide open so my money is on some remote code execution via the stupid webcam accessory.

    Still not as bad as Sony and 3 generations of browser exploits in a row. Or tony hawks games

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    $500 for a console is one thing, but $80 for games when I just use Nintendo for Pokemon games? And Pokemon has honestly lost me. I even stopped giving a shit about my online storage box with shinies from 2010.

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    yeah… emulators lag behind the consoles for many years… reversing tends to be a lot of painstaking work… and for people who will just turn around and whine about something not working or looking perfectly

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    IIRC the only reason a switch emulator appeared so soon after launch was because the creator of the Citra 3DS emulator decided to go for it. Now that nintendo has sent goons to the houses of all emulator devs there’s not as much institutional knowledge nor will for devs to stick their neck out as there was in 2017

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    I agree for the most part, getting a cracked copy of a nintendo game still benefits nintendo (piracy has always benefited large publishers). Nintendo can easily create a tug of war situation with the emulator scene where firmware updates and game DRM will be a constant fixture.

    Switch 1 emulation was achieved because we got extremely lucky that the switch 1 had a hardware defect on launch day that allowed for jailbreaking. Usually jailbreaking a console is very difficult and requires a mixture of luck and extremely knowledgeable individuals willing to pour hundreds of hours and now that Nintendo has sent its copyright ninjas to copyright safe havens like Brazil I doubt that there’s any motivation to start cracking a new console anytime soon.

    Emulation projects are not free labor so you can crack the latest nintendo nostalgia slop.

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    I dunno, i personally don’t care about playing games the first day, haven’t in a very long time. 5 or more years is actually fine, there’s still a ton from their cracked consoles i haven’t played. If i wait long enough and the games are good enough i figger ill get to play the games eventually and if i don’t, i truly don’t care. I play games on my terms or i don’t play em, that’s my meta

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      I waited until last year to finally get a moddable switch. I’m personally fine with waiting a few years for a mod solution to appear. They want people to buy their drm box on hype and it’s rarely worth it until much later, anyways.

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    Switch form factor was unique when it came out now with Steam Deck and its numerous clones do Nintendo have the same bargaining power with Switch 2? You can’t play overpriced AA nintendo games on them but they are full fleged computers that make consoles look like milking contraptions.

    Of course there is also the prevailing phenomenon of gamers shelling out regardless of the asking price. So logic goes out of the window.

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      Nintendo’s main market is parents who want a safe console for their kids with good parental controls. It’s still the cheapest (though not really “cheap” anymore…) and they really don’t give a fuck about Steam or know what it is.

      Gamers act all incredulous that it’s not made for them - yeah no shit.

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        I don’t know about this. A higher priced system seems more aimed at enthusiasts than parents who can find cheaper ways to occupy their young (including older consoles and/or cellies and tablets). The expanded online chat options similarly aren’t something that is selling systems to parents who don’t have the time to vet every online stranger.

        Nintendo sells a lot of games on nostalgia, which kids don’t have much of to exploit.

        I think Nintendo is still trying to sell to families, which includes millenial moms and dads who grew up on games and may have identified as “hardcore” back when they had the time

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        A lot more parents now know what Steam is. Is almost 25 years old, and has been popular for 10+ years.

        That means 10 year old kids with 35-40 year old parents have parents that were in their teens and 20s when Steam got popular.

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          yeah i don’t understand why so many people make this sort of assumption. i literally use my dad’s steam account and have since i was 7 years old. a pretty substantial portion of g*mers are 40+, its not some edgelord youth thing anymore.

          and maybe i’m just poor, but nintendo stuff hasn’t been a cute little thing you throw at your kid to keep them distracted since the GBA. now their consoles cost a month’s rent and no one can spare that right now.

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            For 6-10 year old kids Nintendo is still considered the “safe” company, but they ungated the shop so it’s kinda moot other than parental controls (which everything else has too).

            The Switch is less the kid console now and more a Mario Kart/Smash machine

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      This looks like the most different Mario Kart has ever been. Not worth 90 bucks, but pretty darn different from 8 (oddly though, not as good looking)