A Cornell University student facing deportation after his visa was revoked because of his campus activism said he decided to leave the United States.
Momodou Taal, a citizen of the United Kingdom and Gambia, had asked a federal court to halt his detention. But he posted on X late Monday that he didn’t believe a legal ruling in his favor would guarantee his safety or ability to speak out.
“I have lost faith I could walk the streets without being abducted,” Momodou Taal wrote from an unknown location. “Weighing up these options, I took the decision to leave on my own terms.”
Its amazing they didn’t swoop in and arrest them at they were trying to board the plane.
Per the article, he’s been taking classes remotely since the fall? Was trying to figure out if he’d arrived safely, but I’m not clear if he’s giving up on being able to return safely, or stay here safely.
Probably for the best, unfortunately…
Man we are breaking bad so hard it’s giving me whiplash
We are? I didn’t realize we were cooking meth
Walter White was a good guy compared to our government.
Walter saw the white supremacists and went “nope”, “I might be a drug dealer, but I ain’t a dirty bigot”
“I’m not a nazi, I’m American” lol
I know, sad how quaint that statement is now.
I feel like this regime might be evil enough to get Joker to quit paying his taxes.
For those that didn’t see the animated series
Ketamine is the new Meth
imagine someone comes over to your place and starts protesting and saying how bad you are :DDDD kicking them out seems like a sensible thing to do, no? Go back to Gambia/UK and protest there right? anyone? Come on, people now, people now, people now, come on, people now
Imagine if you criticize Biden then you get abuducted on the street and throw into a prison for months, then a foreign prison for god knows how long, and finally your ancestral land (unless you are a native American).
I know that is not a country I want to contribute to, but it seems like you enjoy that.
Ironic
Hearing new voices with perspectives shaped by new places and ideas strengthens us. That is the underlying principle of freedom of speech and freedom of the press in liberal democracies.
You argue for weakness: weakness of mind, weakness of spirit, and weakness of morals.
computer says no
Ah, proper American values on display. Total obedience to the power, never raising a voice about anything, always staying in line, never having opinion different from what the Glorious Leader says.
And I’m actually not joking, based on the actions, it is as closest you can have to the proper American values.You’re a cunt
Don’t call them that. Cunts can be useful.
imagine someone comes over to your place and starts protesting and saying how bad you are
What, you want them to lie to you to your face?
Are you having a stroke?
You are probably just trolling, but your point is not entirely wrong. If you have been advertising your house as the land of the free, and specifically compare your house to other houses that aren’t free, it changes the picture a bit. Then add on that you let anyone from your neighborhood trash talk your house, but anyone from outside the neighborhood that you invite in you don’t. That would be pretty unreasonable.
But let’s get it a bit closer to what is happening. You actually post rules at the door of the house. They say not only are you allowed to trash talk the house, but there is an appointed 3rd party who’s job it is to decide if you broke the rules before any punitive action is taken. But then once inside you ignore your own rules and the appointed 3rd party’s rulling.
And one more step to get closer to the real case. The person wasn’t even trash talking your house. They were actually trash talking a different house on the other side of the neighborhood. One they actually lived closer to than you. And one that nearly the whole neighborhood says is in the wrong.
Now you are closer to what is happening.
And I know a serious answer probably wasn’t needed here, but on the off chance, I wanted to support serious discussion on opposing opinions.
Lol got the attention you were seeking?
The Gambia already recognizes Palestine as a state.
you’re a dumbass
You’re a carbon processing unit
You speak like a LLM
Lol. Remember all those times people loved to parrot “Free speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences” the last few years? THIS IS WHY BELEIVING THAT AND ADVERTISING IT AS A RATIONAL VIEW IS BAD. It’s biting the side that loved to say it the most hard right now, and under the very logic people used when saying it. Getting involved in political matters as a non-citizen? Fucking brilliant, bud.
It literally means freedom from consequences by the government. Not from society. Sure he could’ve been a social pariah and people would’ve been within their rights to ostracize him. But it is unconstitutional for our government to threaten him with legal action as a result of his politics.
I don’t think you understand freedom of speech.
Except this does actually violate freedom of speech?
People were saying that for private platforms which don’t have a duty to carry any kind of speech.
No you should face negative consequences for saying the n word
Sorry baby
Getting fired for putting slurs on your public facebook = the erosion of due process. Thanks for the hot take
Honestly, that’s the smart thing to do. Staying risks being sent to the El Salvador megaprison.
Which, it should be noted, incidentally is exactly why they’re sending random people to said prison without due process in the first place.
UK here. Proud of our UK, Gambian citizen that he understands what’s at stake for him personally. There’s no point in being abducted and disappeared without trace, get the hell out of there if you’re at risk as many of the persecuted did when Hitler was doing the same in Germany.
The brain drain’s already begun. The “soul drain” is probably (and should be) next. Staying is investing in the country. You will pay with your taxes and more and more freedoms in exchange for the chance to die working.
You still pay some tax to the US when you work abroad
Only if you plan on ever coming back
It’s not easy for just anyone to emigrate. I would have left the US years ago if it was.
Yeah, immigration laws in other countries are very difficult. The US’s immigration policies are vastly easier, even with the politics and bureaucratic hurdles, quotas and lotteries, because there are at least legal pathways for people without tens of millions of dollars. If I wanted to become a citizen in any other first world country it basically can’t be done. I could get a permanent visa in some of those countries because of my education and profession - but never citizenship.
Now some of those countries may be opening up their citizenship process to take advantage of the brain drain. The US is going to lose so much more than just money. It’s truly heart breaking.
I’ll be out in a month, I’m both excited but beyond stressed
I’m jealous, but best of luck! If you don’t mind sharing, where are you headed? We daydream of moving to a Nordic country, but pretty much anywhere would do.
I bet. I truly hope you make it out. And I know it might be painful, but plz don’t exercise any rights formally enjoyed by US citizens and legal residents beforeyou leave. ICE is the most reprehensible group of losers this country has ever put together. Each member is too stupid to be a real cop, and we all know how stupid US cops are, so that’s saying something. I’d also bet that they tried to be prison guards (because of endless victims), but they were too incompetent for that. So we’re left with a group of deplorables where the more racist, misogynistic, and bigoted you are, the better!
I’ve been going out on Saturdays to protest Tesla and will be joining other groups soon. Plz let me and othwrs like me represent you in the huge “fuck you US” that I know you want to personally deliver.
All the best to you and yours.
funny its surprisingly hard to become a CO over a COP which you can become one in as little as a few weeks. i knew someone who became one but the process took months and months with lots of training, interviews,etc, this is for cali though.
also cops primarly draw in mostly right wingers anyways.
I’ve been trying to lay low for the most part to avoid any setbacks. Unfortunately that does make me even more vulnerable than I already was
Jfc, I’m sorry my country is so full of morons that love to hate because it makes them feel better about themselves.
We’re going to see an exodus of foreign born students and it’s going to hit college towns hard.
Making US universities “Whites Only” again is a feature of this policy, not a bug.
I think they are much more enlightened these days. They are happy take brown & yellow if they have enough green.
Neoliberals were. But the backlash to even guys as hard-right as Vivek suggests tolerance for the any amount of diversity is plunging.
Sure, but it will seriously hurt universities by making them lose tuition and talent. By extension it’ll hurt university towns by making them lose business and labor.
also makes thier reputation go down, if they start “racist policies” like that.
it will seriously hurt universities by making them lose tuition and talent.
You’re presuming universities exist to cultivate talent and procure tuition. But what if their primary purpose is to cultivate propaganda, gatekeep social clubs, grant bragging rights to fail kids, and provide sinecures to elite alumni and their friends.
By extension it’ll hurt university towns by making them lose business and labor.
New Haven, CT has one of the highest poverty rates in New England, despite being next door to Yale, home of an elite business school.
Few alumni seem to mind.
That’s only true for private schools.
that maybe for places like harvard and yale, which has desires to return to a white student body, but not all universities have this desire.
But what if their primary purpose is…
🏉 FEWTBHAWWWLLL!!! 🏈
… education might just be an accidental side effect…
But what if their primary purpose is to cultivate propaganda, gatekeep social clubs, grant bragging rights to fail kids, and provide sinecures to elite alumni and their friends.
And what do you think the purpose of foreign students was? To propagandize foreigners and gatekeep their ruling class. The compradores are trained in US universities, not in schools in their home countries.
New Haven, CT has one of the highest poverty rates in New England, despite being next door to Yale, home of an elite business school.
Elite universities are like fortress towns all to themselves, so New Haven doesn’t get business from Yale. That’s going to be very different for the relationship between Iowa City and the University of Iowa.
Agreeing with an .ml person, what a day
But yeah , not going to their home countries uni maybe a question of their countries uni being 50 years behind (i attended uni in a 3rd world country as a chem eng and we were using equipment from the 60s and 70s)
probably less internship(if your lucky) and volunteer lab work as well.
Except its not abt white people only, because any other foreign Student ist going to avoid American Universities now. So, it will be for the American, whites only students, restricting international Exchange of ideas and understanding. Not too Long until they are going to target the education to cater to this exclusive group, removing all diverse topics and critical Thinking teaching subjects. Because a populace brought Into their political Line zu s easier to manage and keep under Control.
any other foreign Student ist going to avoid American Universities now
I think you’ll find plenty of Euro-White Nationalists - particularly Orban-stans, Le Penn fans, Reform UK types, and AfDers - welcomed in with open arms.
Also, lots of Israelis.
Not too Long until they are going to target the education to cater to this exclusive group, removing all diverse topics and critical Thinking teaching subjects.
Liberty University For All
Foreign students often pay more tuition if I’m not mistaken
and university actively seek them out too, without they suffer financially. in the west state uni are suffering from under-enrollment so much they have to cut back classes and staff as it is, due to the lack of career development job search during covid. this will just add on to that.
They do, also it’s a wider talent pool and more chance of recruiting the best and brightest.
its mostly because they pay alot more as a non-citizen and out of state, “the best student is usually secondary” its all about the money. as a non-student if you do post bacc at many state university, or 4 year, it cost alot more to attend classes, no discounts compared to be an undergrad.
MUCH more.
Many times more, in some cases. If foreign students don’t come, then schools will have to charge everyone more. And they need a certain amount of normies footing the bill as there just aren’t enough rich bitch students to make up the slack. If they price it out of reach of normies they’re slowly fucked.
With a probable closing of Department of Education soon we’re also going to see the elimination of Pell Grants probably. So basically colleges are about to be gutted.
Which is the Republicans long held goal. They need less college educate people, not more.
Yeah they wanted to hurt the elite universities - but they missed their targets and will instead hurt all of the third tier state schools that actually have low enough barriers to cater to everyone.
And American ones who see the danger and have the means to go abroad.
Not nealrly as much as electing Musk did. (Since this is just one symptom of it)
Shameful. I have kids that I wouldn’t feel safe sending to these institutions even though they are American citizens.
Did Cornell work with Trump on this?
Unis confirmed/likely working with ICE:
- Columbia University - (I heard is run by a banker, instead of an academic and is chasing easy $$): betrayed their students (more than one)
- New College of Florida - fired a Professor over skin color/race (wouldn’t ever consider Florida anyway). Per commenter below, it was the proving ground with Chris Rufo
- Yale - 3 Professors fled Yale Interview with one of them
Unis that claimed didn’t work with ICE:
- Minnesota State University-Mankato - Student disappeared, uni says they didn’t give ICE any info, unrelated to protests, no reason given
- Tufts University - claimed didn’t work with ICE, student disappeared by ICE
Maybe different reason?
- Indiana University - Admin has been taken over by MAGA, they disappeared a cybersecurity professor
- UIUC - Had multiple students charged with mob action before the election. Possible theory: maybe political pressure by alumni, Isreal, or democratic party (see below comment for more)
Wonder what other institutions of higher thinking/learning will be next to capitulate…
i doubt they are going to touch yale/harvard/standford any time , because those are usually the pipeline for students to >politicians via prestigious MD and Law schools, or business programs. even the MDs from these colleges tend to be elistist asf with respect to employment.
UIUC - Had multiple students charged with felony mob action before the election.
Wow. Added. Not sure which category, so I put it under “maybe different reason” one.
The district attourney, Julia Reitz (D), is an adjunct law professor at UIUC along with the rabi of Chabad. There is also Hillel. There is a big jewish student population there because of chicagoland. My guess is political pressure by ulumni, Isreal, Il democratic party.
Ah, yeah sounds like a real possibility. Thanks for sharing. Will add it.
Don’t forget the Tufts student, according to them they did not cooperate
Thank you! Added. Crazy… I remember now reading about that one too. sigh
A student got disappeared in Mankato too
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minnesota-state-university-mankato-student-detained-by-ice/
Ty! Added!
New college was basically a proving ground. They parachuted in Chris Rufo, and I’m sure they’ll set up a commission or something that he can head to do the same things to other colleges that get Federal funding.
Thanks adding to the list and I just found the article on Yale. Will add that to my list to my… unsafe/unprincipled schools for future students.
I think the cyber security prof might be different.
Yeah, that one stunk of him being a literal spy. Hard to tell from the lack of information from our few remaining journalistic news sources though.
ah true, that’s a possibility
I totally understand him, the Americans, Russians, Chinese, North Koreans in the end are on their own to fight against their authoritarian governments.
It’s so wild to see my country on that list with the “big three”
Personally I’d put Americans with the Hungarians and Turks instead. Still bad, but not quite that bad… Yet.
How cute that you believe that.
"I thought it was just a normal day. I mean, 4 years, how long could that be. Then one day, out of nowhere, I heard a bunch of helicopters hovering, and I heard sirens wailing. Just another day of police chases, I thought, nothing unusual. I went on my laptop and tried to watch a Youtube Video, but the browser says ‘Unable to connect’. I tried to use my phone’s hotspot, same thing. I tried to call a friend, but calls keep geting dropped, and even SMS says ‘undeliverable’. My phone says ‘Emergency Only’ instead of the carrier name. Oh well, I’m bored and there’s nothing to do, I guess I’ll just do my grocerry shopping early. I drive to the grocerry store and on the way there, I saw a bunch of soldiers with a roadblock thing and… it’s a checkpoint…
The next thing I saw on my phone was an emergency alert ‘Martial Law has been Declared Nationwide effective immediately…’"
“And then it got worse”
it’s beyond demoralizing and unsettling to stay in a country that perceives you as a ‘national threat’
