Hi 👋 just shared the site with one of my buddies and he told me he doesn’t care much about it because there’s no way you’ll be 100% privacy enforced since you’re using an iPhone and sharing your location, name, birthdate , personal files, photos.

I’ve to say this gets to me but on the other side I’m also respectful of everyone‘s opinion because after all, this is what makes us special

How are you handling these circumstances usually, do you say something?

  • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I think the point is you’re exaggerating how easy it is for the average person to install and use something like Graphene

    I’m not. It really is that easy.

    But the fact that it’s easy isn’t the point. The point is that you have that choice. That is not a choice you’re allowed with Apple.

    Apple is certainly a better choice than Googled Android. And I think that’s valuable to be able to tell people

    I did tell them that, in the parent comment of this thread.

    • guismo@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      2 days ago

      As a GrapheneOS user, and someone who hates apple and would rather not have a phone than bend to apple, and while i agree with most of what you said, i would not expect the majority of the users to be able to install graphene. I don’t personally know anyone i would expect to be able to do by themselves. It’s easy for you. It wasn’t super easy for me, it would be difficult for most people.

      • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
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        2 days ago

        the fact that it’s easy isn’t the point. The point is that you have that choice.

        • guismo@aussie.zoneEnglish
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          2 days ago

          I agree. It’s just that you said it’s easy.

          Maybe you were referring to unlocking the phone, which is really easy on stock android if you know how.

          The day we don’t have the choice anymore is the day i stop using android. Or smart phones at all if the alternative is apple.

          • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
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            2 days ago

            Well. Agree to disagree. You literally just plug it in and push buttons in the browser. It’s that simple.

            • guismo@aussie.zoneEnglish
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              2 days ago

              Ah, I didn’t do it that way… I think. I can’t remember. I certainly remember not wanting to because I don’t trust that way. Also I use firefox and I doubted it would work. I don’t know.

              • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
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                2 days ago

                Ah, I didn’t do it that way… I think.

                Okay, but you can.

                Also I use firefox and I doubted it would work.

                It doesn’t, but you can’t use Chrome (or any other Chromium browser) for 5 minutes?

                • guismo@aussie.zoneEnglish
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                  2 days ago

                  Although i use android i really, really don’t want Google stuff on my pc. I use android because it’s the only viable choice on mobile. But on pc I’ll avoid chromium as much a i can. And having installed many roms the hard way before i saw no reason to make an exception.

                  Plus i don’t like the browser doing something like that where i don’t know what it’s doing. If it was on firefox maybe i would trust it more, but even then…

                  • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
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                    2 days ago

                    i don’t like the browser doing something like that where i don’t know what it’s doing.

                    Do you know what Firefox is doing? Do you know what GrapheneOS is doing? At some point you have to either audit the code yourself or trust it.

                    Seems a bit paranoid to be unwilling to have any Chromium fork on your PC for 15 minutes but you do you.