The Lemmy Club is currently suffering from “The Nazi Bar” problem. All of their top communities are run by three right-wingers as illustrated below.

The Lemmy Club instance admin doesn’t seem to want to ban them, for the reasons mentioned below:

This vote is on whether or not we should defederate from this instance until they address their Nazi Bar problem.

Upvote = for defederation. Downvote = against defederation.

Edit: As others have mentioned, happy to treat this a only a temporary measure until the problem is resolved.

Edit 2: The Lemmy Club admin has said they will implement a rule against right wing communities, and has taken action on some problematic posts and users (see original comments below).

I’m willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to the admin here, as they have responded in good faith:

If you implement those changes then I’d be willing to withdraw the defederation proposal and consider the problem resolved.

  • GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    61·
    6 days ago

    I agree with your surgical approach in general, though I don’t want to vote one way or another in this case, because I’m torn between whether it’s a good idea, or too soon to act so broadly.

    Despite Lemmy and the fediverse at large being an international community, I would predict a very American style community schism at some point based on political ideology. I think we’re going to end up with a conservative zone, a liberal/progressive zone, a tankie zone, and then… Instances like this one. They’re “neutral”, they will have to experience the Nazi bar problem before they either take action or put on an armband.

    db0, you know the tech better than I do. Is this sort of thing possible? Fractured and semi exclusive fediverse zones that are connected very loosely by neutral parties?

    I honestly don’t know if it’s a good thing, but I definitely understand the sentiment of not wanting to interact with whatever American conservatives have become.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
      8·
      6 days ago

      Not really connected. If we defed a fash instance, we can’t see them in a “neutral” space either.

      • GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        6 days ago

        Gotcha, thanks.

        I feel like we’re gonna head towards that community schism sooner rather than later. I’m glad for you that the decision doesn’t lie solely in your hands thanks to the governance system. Hang in there.

        • Taser@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          5·
          6 days ago

          Thank you both for the great read.

          My initial reaction was “defed”, but now that I’ve seen this back-and-forth, I’m going to remove it and stay neutral in the b&b camp as well.

          Signed, Another (mostly) lurker