• ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      My point isn’t ROC vs PRC, its to highlight that, even when all you hear about China is all doom and gloom, the Imperial era of China is still far worse. Criticism (as in, without violent threats) against Xi Jingping could land you in prison for some time, depending on the severity, but criticizing the Qing Monarch (or any monarch in any dynasty of Imperial Era China) would be considered an insult, and gets you a summary execution by beheading, possibly along with your close relatives.

      That’s how much progress have been made. Sure, it isn’t as free as actual democracies, but its still progress nonetheless. And its a reminder that the struggle against autocrats isn’t futile.

      Nvm, I retract my argument.

      • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
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        6 hours ago

        It sounds like that’s what I’m talking about. It was Imperial -> ROC -> PRC, not Imperial -> PRC.

        The only progress was ROC. PRC was worse.

        It’s like saying “Oh you don’t like Trump fucking up everything in our government so it’s way more authoritarian? Well it’s much better than when the US was imperial England, so it’s still progress.”

        There’s a step missing.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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        6 hours ago

        As much as I despise the PRC, thank you for making this point. It always bothers me when people ignore the progress made in the modern era - things may be horrible now, but goddamn were they worse in the past.