• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    To whom? Macron, who refuses to respect the will of the voters, and continues to elevate the far right in France?

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      3 hours ago

      Thank you; people keep getting excited whenever France makes moves towards forms of leadership these days but I can’t help but suspect that Macron doesn’t want to eradicate the global hegemony America had held through recent history but put France in its place.

      Demanding back a gift given in celebration of America’s abolition of slavery solely on the basis that France was the one to gift it (i.e. ownership) is too on-the-nose, even if you tried.

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        3 hours ago

        You don’t need to suspect. He’s confirmed it plenty of times. He will shut the country down before allowing the left to seize power.

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      2 hours ago

      Yeah. Macron is extremely bad with domestic politics which is why the French far-right keeps gaining ground. I tell the so-called blue MAGA that if Americans could articulate their thoughts away from the cringey false dichotomy of “blue, liberal Democrats” versus “red, conservative Republicans”, the Democratic party is at best a neoliberal centre-right party who still value private property and free market, however socially progressive they are. Hence, as Macron and the Democratic party demonstrated, liberals will always side with fascists when it comes to it, instead of actually curb stomping the far-right for good.

      But since we are talking about how awful Macron’s domestic policies are, the opposite side is Macron being inversely good in foreign policies. He had been proven correct searching for strategic autonomy, and able to stand up to the bullying tactics of both Trump and Putin. Someone in Reddit mentioned Macron is probably easily bored with local politics. I have to agree and I am exactly the same. I prefer international news and politics over local; because the latter is like keeping up with school gossip with too many white noise. And the details of the story change every damn time. Meanwhile, international politics typically settles over a bit quickly and you get the fuller picture as a result. Besides, I think if you follow international news and politics more, you see the entire forest than just a tree and thus you could easily see solutions to local problems by applying what other nations are doing right.

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        2 hours ago

        Occam’s Razor: It’s not that Macron is a domestic right winger who happens to be correct on international politics. It’s that your beliefs are left domestically, but you’re supporting right-wing foreign policy.

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          1 hour ago

          Macron is centrist at best, who is socially progressive but economically right, in which the latter is only feeding the right.

          He had been advocating for EU army since Trump’s first term. I was indifferent or at best opposed to it because, like most people, nobody thought Trump is crazy enough to threaten to pull out of NATO, and there was no war in Ukraine. Then now with Trump 2.0, him pulling out from more international obligations, and the invasion of Ukraine happening at the same time, I can see why re-arming is a better course. I am still not a fan of an EU army, but I am sympathetic to the sentiment.

          Also, it is not “right wing” to allow rearmament. There are right wingers who are isolationists, especially those with ties of varying degrees to Kremlin and don’t see Putin as a problem. Sure, there are even left wing isolationists.

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              1 hour ago

              I don’t support NATO either. But is as if there are no left leaning supporter for international military alliance lol. I don’t know what your smoking, but no thanks.

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                12 seconds ago

                So you don’t think you’re rightwing, but you think there should be a massive international military alliance 🤦🏻‍♂️