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      It’s more accurate to say, he wants (or claims to want) to. There is no guarantee that he will succeed, and in fact the numbers of people he would have to deport if he followed through on all his deportation promises (when you include all of the rhetoric about “illegal immigrants”) are so large that the whole project appears to be absurd and entirely unfeasible from the get go. There is just no way you can deport millions of people without a massive mobilization effort.

      The costs alone would be exorbitant, and on top of that it would take years with the current processes that are in place. They would need to change the laws and switch to much more aggressive, Nazi like tactics to do it, and that would provoke resistance. Yes they can probably crush that resistance if they are prepared to escalate the level of state and right wing militia violence, but in an already very unstable and polarized political environment that is a risky move…

      I think Biden and Obama already did about as much deportation as they possibly could, and i expect Trump to do about the same amount. When he makes statements about all the people he’s going to deport Trump is simply doing “right wing virtue signaling”. It’s rhetoric that plays well with his base, but that just like the promises of “re-industrialization”, is probably going to be very hard to turn into reality, for practical reasons more so than political ones.

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        I mean yes you are right on those points, it’s just that this ridiculous policy used to follow the following criteria

        However that seems to be no longer the case, at least when it comes to Ukraine

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    I’m unequivocally against this. Firstly, the ones without Ukraine flag emojis in their Twitter bio don’t deserve such a cruel fate. Secondly, the war will be over quicker if the Kiev regime has less bodies to throw into the meat grinder.

    Edit: Similar things have been proposed in Europe too by the way, and here too it is both morally and pragmatically correct to oppose this idea.

    Even if it means we have to continue to see their stupid flag-waving and keep hearing the same idiotic cliché phrases on repeat from all the annoying Ukrainian keyboard warriors who are cheerleading the war from the safety of western countries.

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      Even Poland and Baltics refused, afaik multiple times. Now, i don’t doubt they would want to throw as much Ukrainians into the grinder to prolong that war, but, especially in case of Poland, that would put internal situation back to 2013 levels when economy was lacking manpower and bourgeoisie started to make concessions to the workers. Fortunately for them 2014 coup happened and the shock therapy and minority oppression by maidan govt caused huge wave of Ukrainian migrants being enthusiastically absorbed by Poland for social dumping.

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      I have about the same position on this. A lot (though not all) of these people are insufferable, though we don’t have nearly as many in my country as the US does. Being annoying on the internet is, thankfully, not something people get deported for however.

      Nor does it mean I wish them death, which is likely what would happen if they were sent back. Their death and a prolonging of a war that is just going to kill even more.