Strange New Worlds explicitly states that it’s socialist. Liberals like to pretend there’s a difference, but I honestly don’t know what socialism means without communism being involved.
No, only implicitly. Afaik Gene meant for it to be like the Nordic model.
I’ve never seen or been given any sources that really clarify what he was after. I saw several times on left reddit subs over the years people repeat the claim that his wife said on a radio show that “what the Chinese believe in, that’s what Gene saw for Star Trek” or something to the effect. But I’ve never seen a source on this.
It certainly seems at times in places much more than just nordic social democracy extended. The in-universe hand-waving is that it was basically just a nuclear war and not violent revolution that brought about humanity coming together under this (cough communism cough) system. By DS9 the liberals are fully in control, they do things like “oh the wealthy can be shamed by riot leaders being exceptionally decent and not murdering their cops when they take power in an area, and oh being non-violent will get real change” (with regard to Bell Riots).
For one thing the model of ToS seems very militarized but also has people who seem to me like stand-ins even if ones not always portrayed super favorably for Soviet commissars, for planning individuals within a kind of strictly run hierarchy. By TNG that seems to have been dropped.
Wasn’t Gene influenced by Posadas? I thought that was the reason for the focus on cetaceans for V’ger and why all federation ships originally were meant to come with a dolphin navigation chamber.
Isn’t the United Federation of Planets explicitly communist?
Strange New Worlds explicitly states that it’s socialist. Liberals like to pretend there’s a difference, but I honestly don’t know what socialism means without communism being involved.
Wait, do you have the source on this? I need to archive it. I mean on SNW saying that it is socialist in canon
No, only implicitly. Afaik Gene meant for it to be like the Nordic model.
I’ve never seen or been given any sources that really clarify what he was after. I saw several times on left reddit subs over the years people repeat the claim that his wife said on a radio show that “what the Chinese believe in, that’s what Gene saw for Star Trek” or something to the effect. But I’ve never seen a source on this.
It certainly seems at times in places much more than just nordic social democracy extended. The in-universe hand-waving is that it was basically just a nuclear war and not violent revolution that brought about humanity coming together under this (cough communism cough) system. By DS9 the liberals are fully in control, they do things like “oh the wealthy can be shamed by riot leaders being exceptionally decent and not murdering their cops when they take power in an area, and oh being non-violent will get real change” (with regard to Bell Riots).
For one thing the model of ToS seems very militarized but also has people who seem to me like stand-ins even if ones not always portrayed super favorably for Soviet commissars, for planning individuals within a kind of strictly run hierarchy. By TNG that seems to have been dropped.
Wasn’t Gene influenced by Posadas? I thought that was the reason for the focus on cetaceans for V’ger and why all federation ships originally were meant to come with a dolphin navigation chamber.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dolphin Wiki source but was in technical manual as original source.
It feels like he was.
For sure. Shame we never got to see that one.
So capitalism?
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