Summary
During a heated Oval Office meeting, Trump berated Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
Trump repeatedly cut Zelenskiy off, accused him of lacking gratitude, and defended Russian President Vladimir Putin. He also ranted about past U.S. elections and personal grievances.
Following the meeting, Trump posted on Truth Social, claiming Zelenskiy “is not ready for peace.”
The U.S. and Russia recently held talks without Ukraine, raising concerns over sidelining Kyiv in negotiations.
Hey man. I didn’t vote for the guy ever. I’m saddened multiple times per day by what is happening. Go fuck yourself if you think everybody here is okay with what’s going on here.
Very few people think everyone on your side of the pond is okay with your political shitshow.
It’s disheartening to see around a third of your voters being cunts, but then every country has their regressive arseholes, but it’s downright frustrating to see another chunk of your voting populace being okay enough with it to not bother voting against it.
So, by majority, the Americans are a clownshow. A small #NotAllVoters contingent doesn’t really change that - coupled with a modern history of American exceptionalism (and i say that with a straight face even with the British track record) then you can see why you’re getting dunked on.
We get it (and deserve it), but your preaching to the choir. The US residents of Lemmy are usually either socially active net-izens who are very aware of, and trying to act against of the shitshow unfolding in what ways they can, or fringe groups (see the tankie instances) who have been thrown off of enough mainstream platforms that they had to go make their own.
Once todays vent session is done, we should focus on keeping constructive posts visible and discussed. (Stuff individuals or small groups can do to help our firends on the other side of the pond and ideas to try and course correct shit stateside)
Im just trying to not be too pesimistic…
The American exceptionalism has been a huge burr in my blanket for forever, and I live here.
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Disrespectfully, fuck off. There are A LOT of folks who voted against him. You can be angry at the MAGAts that voted for him, or the imbeciles who didn’t vote, but there are quite a few of us who never supported him and are doing anything we can think of to remove him.
You know what? I’d like to say the same thing to him, but I can’t. You know why?
Because I said the same things that he’s saying about all the Russians who failed to depose Putin. I didn’t care if they never supported him; I only cared that they failed to act against him.
Just like you and I are failing to do right now.
We deserve this.
I get where you’re coming from. I can’t say I ever blamed the oppressed for their oppression, but at the same time I’m sure I’ve thought “why don’t they do more”? And now I, and it sounds like you, know. Right now, despite screaming to high heaven about this, I don’t know WHAT to do. All I know is that I don’t want to be the first, because I have ZERO faith anyone else in the country will back me up vs just shrugging it off. And like most Americans who can see what’s happening, I have a lot to lose.
Likewise!
There’s an intimidating, but relevant article somebody posted on here the other day about that: It’s Safer in the Front
The election was almost five months ago. Move on. What are you doing now?
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