if you live in the US, and pay taxes, you contribute to that same genocide… if you have no choice in the matter, i don’t see how you can be responsible for it
voting is similar; your 2 realistic options for voting in the US were republican or democrat… no other choice was going to effect the outcome of this particular issue. in that case, either look at which choice was less awful for the issue or put that to the side if you think they’re both the same and look at other things: queer rights, protection of democracy, economy, etc
no matter how you slice it, voting democrat means fewer people would have died, globally and domestically; that’s how you move past it… by realising that genocide was going to happen no matter what, so may as well save some other lives and keep trying to fight the genocide in other ways
On foreign policy, the only thing that changes are which imperialists will we be allies with. The death tolls don’t change much, just sometimes the location.
i think domestically, internationally in general, and possibly in gaza tbh:
gaza: trump has said directly that he wants to level gaza and take it over for the US; the democrats at least paid vague lip service to “red lines” and shit - i don’t know what was happening behind the scenes; it didn’t seem like much, but we can never know how much worse it could have been without that. i feel like trump is definitely worse for the palestinians, based solely on his rhetoric
internationally: people will die in ukraine; perhaps a lot of people, and who knows whether the conflict will escalate further from here given the fragmentation trump has and will cause
domestically: yeah i don’t think i even need to go there
however you slice it, trump is going to cause significantly more deaths… im not okay with “supporting genocide”; it makes me absolutely livid that no matter what happens genocide will be the outcome… but not making a choice definitively causes more loss of life
i understand for sure the argument that if you vote for democrats anyway, where’s the line? when do you punish them so that they learn? it’s frustrating as fuck for sure… and that’s a valid argument, but in that case you’re still making a choice: you’re sacrificing all those lives over the next 4 years to maybe teach them a lesson (that they didn’t learn last time with hillary)
granted, i’m not a US citizen so my “support” is limited to trying to convince people on the internet to not fuck over the world
How does one just “move past” backing genociders?
if you live in the US, and pay taxes, you contribute to that same genocide… if you have no choice in the matter, i don’t see how you can be responsible for it
voting is similar; your 2 realistic options for voting in the US were republican or democrat… no other choice was going to effect the outcome of this particular issue. in that case, either look at which choice was less awful for the issue or put that to the side if you think they’re both the same and look at other things: queer rights, protection of democracy, economy, etc
no matter how you slice it, voting democrat means fewer people would have died, globally and domestically; that’s how you move past it… by realising that genocide was going to happen no matter what, so may as well save some other lives and keep trying to fight the genocide in other ways
Let’s be real: just maybe domestically.
On foreign policy, the only thing that changes are which imperialists will we be allies with. The death tolls don’t change much, just sometimes the location.
i think domestically, internationally in general, and possibly in gaza tbh:
gaza: trump has said directly that he wants to level gaza and take it over for the US; the democrats at least paid vague lip service to “red lines” and shit - i don’t know what was happening behind the scenes; it didn’t seem like much, but we can never know how much worse it could have been without that. i feel like trump is definitely worse for the palestinians, based solely on his rhetoric
internationally: people will die in ukraine; perhaps a lot of people, and who knows whether the conflict will escalate further from here given the fragmentation trump has and will cause
domestically: yeah i don’t think i even need to go there
however you slice it, trump is going to cause significantly more deaths… im not okay with “supporting genocide”; it makes me absolutely livid that no matter what happens genocide will be the outcome… but not making a choice definitively causes more loss of life
i understand for sure the argument that if you vote for democrats anyway, where’s the line? when do you punish them so that they learn? it’s frustrating as fuck for sure… and that’s a valid argument, but in that case you’re still making a choice: you’re sacrificing all those lives over the next 4 years to maybe teach them a lesson (that they didn’t learn last time with hillary)
granted, i’m not a US citizen so my “support” is limited to trying to convince people on the internet to not fuck over the world