So recently bought the Pixel 8 with my previous carrier being Verizon and was going to put Grapheneos on it but I had no idea that Verizon locks the boot loaders of their devices even though google does not. What are some things I can do to de google the device or make it more private like Grapheneos would. Or am I out of luck. Thanks
Afaik out of luck so sell it and save for a non carrier pixel
I think you may just have to sell it & buy another one direct from Google.
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original post: do you owe verizon money for it?
https://www.verizon.com/support/device-unlocking-policy/
Devices that you purchase from Verizon are locked for 60 days after purchase. Devices that you purchase from one of our authorized retailers are locked for 60 days after activation. After 60 days, we will automatically remove the lock unless the device is deemed stolen or purchased fraudulently. Following the 60 day lock period, we do not lock our phones at any time.
however rereading your comment it sounds like you cannot unlock your bootloader?
I think this is only referring to being carrier unlocked. The bootloader remains locked regardless. Atleast thats how it was with my old Pixel 4.
Yeah. Fuck Verizon
Absolutely, there are some really good ways to mitigate the data flow even if you can’t stop it entirely. The OS is a big deal, but I think the most fundamental change to make is the apps and services you use.
You’ve probably already done that to a degree, but see if there are more changes you can make.
Alternativeto is an excellent way to explore your options, but also the techlore and the new oil youtube channels are fantastic resources for limiting privacy leaks.
I’ll post a few debloater apps that I’ve run across when I get home too, I haven’t used them but I know there are options for removing some of the tracking elements of stock android.
Yes a debloater would be helpful probably. Just disappointing as part of the reason I went with the pixel was this option but now it’s not one.
I hear you man. That exact thing happened to me back with the Pixel 2.
You know, I’ve heard of people having success getting the carriers to remove the lock on the bootloader sometimes. It may be worth calling Verizon’s support line and asking them to do it.
Here is a good debloater that should allow you to remove some of the cruft from Google. It utilizes Shizuku which is a fantastic tool for accomplishing stuff without rooting your phone. I know I’ve seen debloating guides on YouTube that walk you through the stuff you can get rid of.
Something else that could really help is using a DNS blocking service to filter out requests to ad/tracking domains. I use NextDNS right now because it has some pretty comprehensive filters that are very easy to setup. Here’s a video that goes over setting it up. Pi-Hole or Adguard are self-hosted options, I used Pi-Hole for awhile and liked it, but switched in order to simplify my digital life a bit.
Edit: also, here is a guide from a reputable privacy site that covers a more technical approach to degoogling stock android. You can do a lot more than you might think.
I’m not ready to really degoogle my phone, but wow next DNS has a lot of cool features! Thanks for the recommendation
Glad it helps! Yeah DNS level adblocking is hugely helpful both in terms of privacy and security.
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