You lose the senior vote as the GOP, you’re fucked.

Yes, we’ve another two years, and it’s becoming more clear this is why they’re speedrunning.

But this is … I don’t know if self-immolation or Ouroboros is more apt.

  • Pete Hahnloser@beehaw.orgOPEnglish
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    8 hours ago

    Dems couldn’t pour resistance out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the bottom. They’ve not been what they still sell themselves as since Tip O’Neill.

    One of the large questions is whether people finally realize that. I don’t think they will. I think however this plays out, Dems are going to come out the other end portraying themselves as trying to right the ship after things have gone so sideways, and people will buy it because they understand neither the Overton window nor the perils of a two-party system.

    When you’ve known nothing but neoliberalism your entire life, everything else looks scary.

    • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      7 hours ago

      I think the right will revolt if pushed hard enough. A lot of trumps support isn’t genuine - it’s a lot of “reverse” lesser evil strategy. Most people I work with in a deep blue state (federally) voted for him. Of those, only two are actual trump supporters. The rest are mostly “apolitical” and don’t like him but saw him as less evil than Harris, who promised a continuation of much of the same failed policy as biden which was economically hurting my coworkers.

      I think one of my coworkers - straight, female, 30s, white, seemingly socially liberal - is a perfect microcosm into the average trump voter: Me: I’m surprised you voted for trump. Why? “my paycheck didn’t go as far under biden. I don’t like the guy but I’m struggling now more than ever.” Me: what about women’s reproductive rights? “I’m not worried, our state’s constitution protects it”Me: what would make you regret your vote? “if they went after the states right to abortion”

      This woman doesn’t hate minorities, doesn’t really care about immigration, is pro lgbtq, pro women’s rights. And she voted for trump because neoliberalism is bankrupting her. She’s not alone. The rabidly stupid base of trump supporters the media parades around because they act like a ridiculous cult are not the people who put trump in office. My coworker is the type who put trump in office. And if government services they or their loved ones rely on disappear or they’re kicked off of, there’s a real chance they might revolt.

      • t3rmit3@beehaw.org
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        2 hours ago

        I think you are 100% correct, except for the first and last lines.

        And if government services they or their loved ones rely on disappear or they’re kicked off of, there’s a real chance they might revolt.

        I know these people as well, and they will never under any circumstances risk harm to themselves. Just as their vote was entirely selfish, so will their avoidance of violence be.

        They are the kind of people who would have signed up as a Nazi Party member not because they agreed with it, but because they’d think it would be the best way to stay safe: just keep their heads down and go along quietly. Selfishness and fear can often go hand-in-hand; self-preservation and self-prioritization are divided by only the narrowest of very blurry lines.