Its not a joke if it is true… even if it is because of artificially induced conditions. Nobody argues that it wouldn’t be a boon being born in the EU for instance.
But certain countries are better to be born into than others. Like, I would hate to be reincarnated into North Korea or Russia. This has nothing to do with the people themselves, but rather the rules and rulers of the country. It’s not racism to dislike the idea of being born without basic rights.
My bad. I just don’t like generalizing large swaths of people and places as better/worse. Just feels like a slippery slope to saying “all Russians bad” or whatever groups of people because you believe are worse off. I get the point, I still think it’s problematic. I’m sorry
You’re not wrong. It’s really pumping up a degree of nationalism that is unhealthy to take for granted. If you change out ‘Russia’ for other countries you start see the baby’s reaction relies on prejudices on politics and current events. If it was ‘Mexico’ or ‘China’ it suddenly feels a little more racist.
It’s not racism, nor is it nationalism. I live in America, it fucking sucks here and I’d like to leave. But it’s still better than North Korea by leaps and bounds, and I would choose to be born here again if those were the only choices. Same with Russia, same with China.
Are you really trying to defend the living conditions in a country like North Korea? It’s not racist to say it sucks there, that’s just a fact.
In that line of thinking: what does the comic say if ‘Russia’ is exchanged for ‘North Korea’? Is the point of the comic just to flatly express that one nation state sucks in comparison? If so, that’s kind of a shitty sentiment–and dare I say nationalistic.
I genuinely don’t see the issue if you were to replace Russia with NK. NK is a worse place to live from what I understand, so it would work even better.
The difference between this comic and nationalism, is that nobody is singing praises about how good the other countries are. The France/Canada babies aren’t exactly breaking out into giddy smiles here. If saying “X country isn’t the worst place ever” is nationalism, the word doesn’t mean much.
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Its not a joke if it is true… even if it is because of artificially induced conditions. Nobody argues that it wouldn’t be a boon being born in the EU for instance.
EU is far better off than most of the world right now. USA is Cooked, not sure I can even talk about the rest.
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So we get to the problem you have with the comic.
if we can’t control our births might as well joke about it to ease the pain. Where does racism factor into all this?
But certain countries are better to be born into than others. Like, I would hate to be reincarnated into North Korea or Russia. This has nothing to do with the people themselves, but rather the rules and rulers of the country. It’s not racism to dislike the idea of being born without basic rights.
My bad. I just don’t like generalizing large swaths of people and places as better/worse. Just feels like a slippery slope to saying “all Russians bad” or whatever groups of people because you believe are worse off. I get the point, I still think it’s problematic. I’m sorry
You’re not wrong. It’s really pumping up a degree of nationalism that is unhealthy to take for granted. If you change out ‘Russia’ for other countries you start see the baby’s reaction relies on prejudices on politics and current events. If it was ‘Mexico’ or ‘China’ it suddenly feels a little more racist.
It’s not racism, nor is it nationalism. I live in America, it fucking sucks here and I’d like to leave. But it’s still better than North Korea by leaps and bounds, and I would choose to be born here again if those were the only choices. Same with Russia, same with China.
Are you really trying to defend the living conditions in a country like North Korea? It’s not racist to say it sucks there, that’s just a fact.
In that line of thinking: what does the comic say if ‘Russia’ is exchanged for ‘North Korea’? Is the point of the comic just to flatly express that one nation state sucks in comparison? If so, that’s kind of a shitty sentiment–and dare I say nationalistic.
I genuinely don’t see the issue if you were to replace Russia with NK. NK is a worse place to live from what I understand, so it would work even better.
The difference between this comic and nationalism, is that nobody is singing praises about how good the other countries are. The France/Canada babies aren’t exactly breaking out into giddy smiles here. If saying “X country isn’t the worst place ever” is nationalism, the word doesn’t mean much.