• Naich@lemmings.world
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    4 months ago

    So despite all the tough talk, they just roll over and capitulate. The only way to protest this is to move your stuff off Apple.

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      4 months ago

      …to less-secure alternatives? Do you really think Google is going to say “no backdoor, we’re keeping encryption, we don’t need YOUR market”?

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        No? Kinda? I’d say a Pixel (so Google hardware, yeah) with Graphene, and either self-hosted, or independent end-to-end encrypted cloud storage.

        There are alternatives to the tech conglomerates.

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            You could swap out the Pixel+Graphene for say a FairPhone+LineageOS. I ran misc-secondhand-phone+LineageOS for over a decade. Still selfhost everything I need. My family have all their photos upload to my nextcloud instance instead of Google.

            My switch to Pixel+Graphene is because ultimately the problem is political not technical. A banking app I needed for work refused to run without the real Google services. It also refused Custom ROMs. I tried a lot of tricks. Also GoogleMaps is the only satnav with traffic information in the route planning. There is other things, but Graphene allows you a compromise of running the Google services, but sandboxed.

            The problem is not technical, it’s political. Most people don’t understand the difference between a standard and a monopoly. The law makers are asleep to monopolies and the need for competition in the tech world, so have allow this tech dystopia to happen. Some that are more awake know big monopolies are easier to get things like this story from. Multinational corporation are money machines, they won’t really fight for their users. But they miss the bigger picture.

            If you care about all this stuff, there is groups like:

            https://openrightsgroup.org/

            https://fsfe.org/

            Maybe also https://openuk.uk/ , though they more work with big tech.

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        4 months ago

        To a more secure alternative, obviously. There are other options than Apple and Google.

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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        4 months ago
        1. Artificially pull out of UK, by forcing all UK residents to select a different country of residence with a banner as to why UK residents can’t have iPhones, then store all their ADP encrypted data on data warehouses outside of the UK. Then claim that they (Apple) don’t track users and have to trust that users are selecting the correct countries of residence, and that they (Apple) will not allow the UK government to peak into non-UK residents, so they can’t help “sorry (not sorry)”.

        Option 4 is similar to option 3 by telling the government to shove it, but with the very important benefit of still allowing the residents to use their products. It’s (almost) a win win.