"Rest assured we haven't signed any fixed-price development contracts, nor intend to."

Boeing says it can’t make money with fixed-price contracts::“Rest assured we haven’t signed any fixed-price development contracts, nor intend to.”

  • KevonLooney@lemm.eeEnglish
    51·
    1 year ago

    You are assuming two things:

    • Each worker is paid the same
    • The number of workers in the company affects the market for their products

    In a small company, none of this is true.

    • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      43·
      1 year ago

      This is a proof of theory, the same way capitalist economists show what options and game theory incentives exist. Its quite literally a textbook example. What I said about co ops is not a new claim, and im not gonna research the exact financials of the mondragon co op to make an example on lemmy lmfao. Also nowhere does my post suggest each worker is paid the same, thats not what surplus means. Nowhere do I assume the number of workers effects the market either, it effects production. Wow you really went out of your way to misread that.

    • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      Also that each worker supplies the same surplus. While forecasters will assume this, this is rarely the case in engineering.

      • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        All I said was 10 workers produce 100 dollars of surplus. Nowhere does that imply each produced 10 dollars. Only that their voting power commands 10 dollars of surplus. Read it again.

        • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          So you have a system that doesn’t reward increased productivity between members, or even provides some metrics for measurement. You can have a successful project with non-performing members.

          • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            11·
            1 year ago

            Co ops directly reward increased production, increased production would lead to increased surplus, and the surplus is democratically allocated, weather that’s bonuses or investments, raises even if they see the increase is surplus as permanent. All of thats extra money that everyone gets to decide what to do with. Thats more incentive than ive seen more than most workers in top down systems get.

            • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
              11·
              1 year ago

              I don’t see that getting implemented in an engineering company.

              There are employee owned companies out there given the economics of creating an engineering company, but I don’t see a co-op format scaling. At most, it is going to be employees choosing leadership.