The way “animal rights” framed as in agriculture, how our food-systems in both logistics and livestock-care are handled by the workers absolutely has importance to in a Marxist view…bird flu is one pertinent example I could think of.

Is this purposeful ignorance of this question, or are you waiting to get to it? Because you are quick to label things as “ultra-leftist” and act begrudging on concessions towards Vegans and acting like having a sober analysis of our current food-systems and deciding that the things we consume and their relation to the workers is a primary concern isn’t reasonable? Or am I misinterpreting your dismissive attitude?

In addition, you danced around the question. “a machine (or animal) does not.” Suppose if a machine did gain undeniable consciousness…is that not relevant to Marxist discussion because it does not yet show solidarity? A new life-form created under an economic system that would immediately be entitled to it’s labor and life in totality? There’s nothing there to analyze and that’s over-extension?

Also, unrelated, what does “Plague Rat Settler” mean, exactly?

edit: Nice. A downvote and no response.