cross-posted from: https://gregtech.eu/post/7570120
Title. It seems like the police just chose a random person to have someone to prosecute.
I haven’t seen enough of the evidence to know. I feel like everyone in power has decided he’s guilty, but there hasn’t been a trial. I don’t think it’s wrong for people to have their opinions on a personal level about his guilt, but I am not willing to at this point. Honestly I was leaning towards guilty until I saw how the cops were parading him around. I don’t trust that behavior.
No
I believe he was the shooter, and that he should be found not guilty.
Unlikely, but there’s always jury nullification. Which I just realized would be recorded as a “not guilty” verdict, though the implication is “he did it, but we think it’s OK”
iirc jury nullification doesn’t always stick because they can declare a mistrial if it seems fishy.
Can’t be. I was with him at the time of the murder.
Me too! What a great time we all had not doing murder.
Call me jaded but I am not predisposed to take the NYPD at their word.
People seem to forget about the innocent until proven guilty part, the raw amount of perjury with the theater surrounding this person is mind-numbing. If he makes it out of this he will be come a billionaire out of defamation alone, almost all mainstream news sources treated his guilt as a foregone conclusion with barely an “allegedly” in sight.
Not guilty regardless.
I believe he deserves a presumption of innocence as is his constitutional and human right.
Likely him IMO. Very unlikely that they’ll be able to go through a highly-publicized trial with broad support for him and pin the wrong guy, so my general attitude is “let’s see what happens”
That’s exactly how I feel.
Doesn’t matter. He did nothing worth punishing in any regard.
Whoever it was is a hero
No, but it doesn’t really matter. The government has selected its scapegoat. I just hope that the jurors understand what jury nullification is before they go in. Gawd knows the courts don’t want anyone funding out.
He may have pulled the trigger but Brian Thompson loaded the gun
It’s really funny how people started off saying as a joke it wasn’t him/eyebrows look different, as a sort of protest against his arrest.
And then people started to take the jokes seriously, and now we have a massive conspiracy theory that like a third of people on lemmy believe it isn’t him, lol.
Why are you so sure that people said it as a joke at first?
The first pic of the person actually at the scene of the crime looks significantly less like Mangione than the other ones. I don’t believe it’s a coincidence they stopped showing those once they had their sights set on a suspect. I don’t think it was a joke that people were saying that very first picture looked different.
Fuck no! Clearly just a scapegoat
Yeah. So let me get this right, this dude planned everything, but didn’t throw away any proof. Instead he kept every single thing on him, even with a note about how he doesn’t want to cause the police much trouble, but once he’s caught he denies everything? Wat?
^ this is why education is important. Please learn about your country’s punitive systems.
Where has he denied doing the shooting? He’s pled not guilty to specific charges like first degree murder and terrorism; that doesn’t preclude him from having done the shooting in question.
The former and latter behaviour also occurred before and after receiving legal advice, respectively.
Meh. A bad dude died. The bad dude’s actions resulted on the order of at least >1 death/ day. If not for their death, we couldn’t be having this broader conversation on what we can do to “solve” the billionaire problem. Even if it involves the sacrifice of one innocent person, its probably all been worth it, and will continue to be if the pattern continues.
losing two peoples < losing many people + starting a broader movement
Its a net gain regardless.
A better argument would be Blue Cross Blue Shield immediately changing a controversial policy afterwards.