House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration’s authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.

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    6 hours ago

    I voted 3rd party in the election in a swing state and would do it again today.

    The Democrats need to internalize the political cost of supporting Israel. If they want to win, they have to drop Israel.

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      6 hours ago

      I don’t think that is a lesson to take away here

      A party with more support for Israel won so if that was the issue then it seems they didn’t support Israel enough

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        it seems they didn’t support Israel enough

        Seeing as centrists dems cant win without the left I dont think your point matters. The left isnt about to make any deals that include genocide, period. Not hard genocide, not diet-genocide. Harris could have won by breaking from Biden and calling Bidens actions genocide, but she refused to and she lost the voters. And if the next dem does the same they will lose the same. Its really that simple. And yes, the people that left their ballot blank or voted third party will do the exact same thing again, even as Trump burns the country down.

        If we have to burn a country to the ground with murderous war crime enabling policies, our system does not deserve to exist either.

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          Harris could have won by breaking from Biden

          By taking a tougher line on Israel than Biden? Possibly yes.

          and calling Bidens actions genocide,

          No, that could have completely sunk her campaign. Because “genocide” is hyperbole. Just because people here rarely bother to point out that “genocide” is obvious hyperbole, does not mean that the vast majority of voters do not know that using the word “genocide” is obvious hyperbole.

          (1) Biden didn’t have any “actions” in Gaza. That was Hamas and Israel

          (2) War crimes are not the same thing as “genocide”. Genocide means trying to exterminate an entire population.

          (3) A war is not the same as war crimes. There has to be intentional killings of civilians.

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            No, that could have completely sunk her campaign. Because “genocide” is hyperbole. Just because people here rarely bother to point out that “genocide” is obvious hyperbole, does not mean that the vast majority of voters do not know that using the word “genocide” is obvious hyperbole.

            The Palestinian Genocide is a genocide.

            This is not up for debate.

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          America’s far left are centrists

          Your point of burning the system to the ground i can get behind but your proposal of doing that by letting fascists decide how to rebuild it instead of using violence (if you’re a terrorist) or public protests (if you’re a pacifist) is not something I would suggest

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            I’m not exactly in favor of burning it down either if I am allowed that choice, but my actions are limited to: vote Dem, vote republicans, not vote, or vote third party. And I dont see how I get to no genocide plus please dont burn my world down from those choices.

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      6 hours ago

      Are you happy with the current administration’s Israel policy though?

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        Are we pretending them dems werent the ones who leveled gaza and committed genocide so far? They did that shit and they promised to do more of it.

        And we dont know who to credit with the ceasefire.

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          Except unless they had been lobotomized, they knew damn well that their vote was being thrown away and that Trump would be the likely winner.

          Which is tact approval of Trump and everything that came with it.