Germany’s defence chief says the level to which Russia is building up its military, which he categorized as an “imminent threat,” is deeply concerning to him.
If Russia scares you so much then maybe you shouldn’t have all but declared war on Russia? Maybe you shouldn’t have given billions of euros and heavy weaponry to Nazis for the sole purpose of killing Russians? Maybe instead of antagonizing and attacking Russia you should have tried getting along with them? Crazy concept, i know.
I realize this is posted on lemmygrad, so I suppose pro-Russia takes are to be expected.
But would you mind explaining to me how you justify Russia attacking/threatening to attack other countries when there was 0 chance they would have been attacked by another nation?
Are you really claiming that what they re doing is a form of self-defense when they undoubtedly would have been left alone by the EU/NATO, had they not tried to take over a neighboring state?
“Undoubtedly” is doing a lot of work there. When NATO helped coup Qaddafi it demonstrated that it is perfectly willing to be used as a regime change tool by the US. “We came, we saw, he died!” Once that happened, Russia could no longer consider NATO to be a peaceful neighbor and had to defend its national interests. It was only a matter of time until they came for Russia next.
What countries did Russia attack or threaten to attack? It’s NATO that broke its promise over and over again to stop expanding to the east. It’s NATO that keeps taking over more and more countries to install missile bases pointed at Russia. It’s NATO that engineered a coup for Nazis to take over Ukraine, NATO who arms and funds those Nazis to bomb and murder Russians, and NATO who helps those Nazis commit terrorist attacks against Russian civilians. It’s NATO politicians who regularly talk of bleeding Russia, weakening Russia, inflicting a defeat on Russia, of regime changing Russia, even of breaking up Russia into a dozen different states.
They openly discuss at “summits” and conferences their desire to destroy Russia, and they are so shameless and arrogant that they think they can disguise this intent by abusing the term “decolonization”, even as Europe (which still to this day has colonial possessions it clings to) and the US are literally engaged in the neo-colonial exploitation and subjugation of most of the global south.
All this after the whole world saw how they bombed and destroyed Yugoslavia, how they bombed and destroyed Libya, how they bombed, occupied and starved Syria and then armed, funded and trained terrorists to take it over, and you have the audacity to come here and tell us that NATO doesn’t pose a threat to Russia? You say there is zero chance of another country attacking Russia, but NATO had already attacked Russia twice through proxies even before the shit NATO pulled in Ukraine in 2014. They attacked Russia through a US sponsored terrorist insurgency in Chechnya, and through a US instigated invasion by Georgia of South Ossetia (a conflict for which even an EU investigation admitted Georgia was the aggressor).
Not only is what Russia is doing self-defense, they are acting according to their humanitarian duty to protect the ethnic Russian people in Ukraine from genocide and ethnic cleansing at the hands of the Banderite Nazi regime installed by NATO. They are doing in Ukraine what the world should be doing in occupied Palestine: liberating it from genocidal fascists.
I’ll tell you what seems ridiculous to me: for the world to tolerate the existence of such murderous Nazi regimes as Ukraine and “Israel” on this planet after the millions of people who died in WW2 to eradicate this vile ideology. NATO apparently has no problem with that (and we know why - because NATO was founded by Nazis and continues to include Nazis in its ranks who share the same dreams as Hitler did of eastward expansion into Russia), but Russia will not and cannot tolerate on its border the existence of a hyper-militarized Nazi regime that is hellbent on destroying everything Russian.
And before you try to deny that this is really a Nazi regime, here are some openly acknowledged facts:
NATO’s puppet regime in Kiev banned the Russian language, banned Russian media, banned pro-Russian political parties, imprisoned and murdered journalists and activists, burned Russian books, renamed Russian towns, destroyed Russian historical monuments, forced ethnic Russians to speak Ukrainian, renamed streets after WW2 Nazi collaborators, celebrated and declared as national heroes those Nazi collaborators and war criminals who sadistically butchered hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles, Russians and other Ukrainians.
They taught children in schools to hate Russians, trained children to repeat Nazi slogans, replaced historical school books with ones written by hate-filled nationalist extremists peddling revisionist history and lies about Russia and Ukraine in order to create enmity and hate between two brotherly peoples, they sent Nazi paramilitary thugs from western Ukraine with tanks and artillery to occupy and violently repress ethnic Russian regions that wanted autonomy and protection from all of this Nazi crap, and they relentlessly bombed the cities that they couldn’t occupy because the people there picked up arms and defended themselves… and that was all before 2022, before Russia finally intervened to protect the people of the Donbass.
If Russia scares you so much then maybe you shouldn’t have all but declared war on Russia? Maybe you shouldn’t have given billions of euros and heavy weaponry to Nazis for the sole purpose of killing Russians? Maybe instead of antagonizing and attacking Russia you should have tried getting along with them? Crazy concept, i know.
I realize this is posted on lemmygrad, so I suppose pro-Russia takes are to be expected. But would you mind explaining to me how you justify Russia attacking/threatening to attack other countries when there was 0 chance they would have been attacked by another nation? Are you really claiming that what they re doing is a form of self-defense when they undoubtedly would have been left alone by the EU/NATO, had they not tried to take over a neighboring state?
That reasoning seems ridiculous to me.
“Undoubtedly” is doing a lot of work there. When NATO helped coup Qaddafi it demonstrated that it is perfectly willing to be used as a regime change tool by the US. “We came, we saw, he died!” Once that happened, Russia could no longer consider NATO to be a peaceful neighbor and had to defend its national interests. It was only a matter of time until they came for Russia next.
What countries did Russia attack or threaten to attack? It’s NATO that broke its promise over and over again to stop expanding to the east. It’s NATO that keeps taking over more and more countries to install missile bases pointed at Russia. It’s NATO that engineered a coup for Nazis to take over Ukraine, NATO who arms and funds those Nazis to bomb and murder Russians, and NATO who helps those Nazis commit terrorist attacks against Russian civilians. It’s NATO politicians who regularly talk of bleeding Russia, weakening Russia, inflicting a defeat on Russia, of regime changing Russia, even of breaking up Russia into a dozen different states.
They openly discuss at “summits” and conferences their desire to destroy Russia, and they are so shameless and arrogant that they think they can disguise this intent by abusing the term “decolonization”, even as Europe (which still to this day has colonial possessions it clings to) and the US are literally engaged in the neo-colonial exploitation and subjugation of most of the global south.
All this after the whole world saw how they bombed and destroyed Yugoslavia, how they bombed and destroyed Libya, how they bombed, occupied and starved Syria and then armed, funded and trained terrorists to take it over, and you have the audacity to come here and tell us that NATO doesn’t pose a threat to Russia? You say there is zero chance of another country attacking Russia, but NATO had already attacked Russia twice through proxies even before the shit NATO pulled in Ukraine in 2014. They attacked Russia through a US sponsored terrorist insurgency in Chechnya, and through a US instigated invasion by Georgia of South Ossetia (a conflict for which even an EU investigation admitted Georgia was the aggressor).
Not only is what Russia is doing self-defense, they are acting according to their humanitarian duty to protect the ethnic Russian people in Ukraine from genocide and ethnic cleansing at the hands of the Banderite Nazi regime installed by NATO. They are doing in Ukraine what the world should be doing in occupied Palestine: liberating it from genocidal fascists.
I’ll tell you what seems ridiculous to me: for the world to tolerate the existence of such murderous Nazi regimes as Ukraine and “Israel” on this planet after the millions of people who died in WW2 to eradicate this vile ideology. NATO apparently has no problem with that (and we know why - because NATO was founded by Nazis and continues to include Nazis in its ranks who share the same dreams as Hitler did of eastward expansion into Russia), but Russia will not and cannot tolerate on its border the existence of a hyper-militarized Nazi regime that is hellbent on destroying everything Russian.
And before you try to deny that this is really a Nazi regime, here are some openly acknowledged facts:
NATO’s puppet regime in Kiev banned the Russian language, banned Russian media, banned pro-Russian political parties, imprisoned and murdered journalists and activists, burned Russian books, renamed Russian towns, destroyed Russian historical monuments, forced ethnic Russians to speak Ukrainian, renamed streets after WW2 Nazi collaborators, celebrated and declared as national heroes those Nazi collaborators and war criminals who sadistically butchered hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles, Russians and other Ukrainians.
They taught children in schools to hate Russians, trained children to repeat Nazi slogans, replaced historical school books with ones written by hate-filled nationalist extremists peddling revisionist history and lies about Russia and Ukraine in order to create enmity and hate between two brotherly peoples, they sent Nazi paramilitary thugs from western Ukraine with tanks and artillery to occupy and violently repress ethnic Russian regions that wanted autonomy and protection from all of this Nazi crap, and they relentlessly bombed the cities that they couldn’t occupy because the people there picked up arms and defended themselves… and that was all before 2022, before Russia finally intervened to protect the people of the Donbass.
But you see, Biden was supposed to win so that Germany could continue to hide behind America’s skirts.