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Someone get this asshole to get into a submarine
If only more billionaires tried to visit the Titanic.
Oh that’s dark 🤣🤣
They all say they work well under pressure after all.
That joke dives deep.
And if they have trouble surfacing they can pull themselves up by their bootstraps
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A Titan submarine, right? We want nothing but best for dear old Elon.
Only the most “Innovative” of submersibles will do.
I don’t think anyone has ever made a submarine out of toilet paper tubes, masking tape and blu-tack. This is the peak of innovation.
In the Black Sea.
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I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure
Yeah humans. Not ppl with a god complex
Someone should tell Elon that an unprofitable website and a non-profit website are not the same thing.
He isn’t doing it for profit, he wants control
he wants to write articles about himself
adds {{autobiography}} to every article Elon Musk writes
“What do you mean, ‘non-profit’ and ‘no profit’ aren’t identical?”
The difference is the goal of a non profit has nothing to do with making money for investors, it’s trying to actually achieve something, usually helping a group of people in some way.
I like how people are downvoting this and not commenting on why they think it’s a bad statement. Old message board habits die hard I guess.
Oof
Alternate headline:
“Massive shitcunt threatens to destroy the actual best part of the internet to the surprise of absolutely no one”
is what they meant to say
Incidentally, do you guys remember when this fuckhead was a darling of the left?
These are strange times.
He was a darling because he was a literally unknown person who introduced themselves with a controlled media profile who sold a way to approach the fossil fuel problem. The nice thing about the left is their views evolve rapidly to current events and Elon has been inescapable in media, so naturally he reveals his true neocon form.
The nice thing about the left is that they have some critical thinking abilities.
Made it more broad and concise for you.
i never trusted him
Incidentally, do you guys remember when this fuckhead was a darling of the left?
And when was this? I cannot remember a time when a celebrity capitalist parasite was a “darling of the left.”
I will admit there was a time when he was pushing electric cars while traditional auto manufacturers seemed to be dragging their feet. It felt like he was on the right side of a big issue and shaking things up. I think it’s important to admit when we get it wrong. And boy did I get it wrong.
It felt like he was on the right side of a big issue
No. No, he never was. Any leftist will tell you that the only solution to the car problem is public transport… not silly attempts to make individual cars more “eco-friendly.” That’s not leftism - that’s what we call “green capitalism.” And leftists have understood that loooong before Phony Stark skipped South Africa to avoid being drafted into the SADF to uphold the white supremacist state he benefited so richly from.
Do you think you could be a little more careful in your angry smearing of conscientious objectors please?
My brother dodged the draft. He’s a theologian who spent years in exile due to his refusal to serve the corrupt apartheid government.
Give a fuck about Edolf Twitler or don’t but leave the rest of us out of this. Cunt is your problem now anyway.
Just, mind the facts while you rant if you don’t mind. Please.
Do you think you could be a little more careful in your angry smearing of conscientious objectors please?
Perhaps you need to stop smearing conscientious objectors by pretending Phony Stark was one - you might just as well pretend Donald Trump was a conscientious objector if you apply that label to Musk.
It’s out in the open now - Musk is as much a white supremacist as any National Party goon. And, like a lot of rich white kids whose families got rich off the opportunities and impoverished black labor the Apartheid-regime provided them with, Musk felt himself too entitled to actually do the dirty work himself. It was common knowledge here in South Africa at the time - the rich white kids from rich families got to opt out of the war, despite the fact thet they benefited the most from the Apartheid-regime.
It is true that some of those rich white kids actually were against the Apartheid-regime… but Musk wasn’t one of them. His blatant support for white supremacism and his enabling of right-wing ideology proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Exactly. If the reason you are “conscientiously objecting” is because you’re a rich Nazi shitheel who is too much of a pussy to fight for anything yourself, no one cares because you obviously don’t have a real conscience to be conscientous with.
He is clearly fine with sending others to fight his battles for him. Can he be any more the Gen X version of Trump?
You’re pushing a very niche view as if it’s universal, I get why you’re doing it but you’re wrong to. There is no single solution to transport requirements and while the vast majority of leftists of course agree public transport is vital it’s not a magic solution for everything and outside the car hate bubble is very rare for anyone, even a leftwing person, to be staunchly anticar.
You might not like it but it’s reality.
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He doesn’t need anyone to do that, he buys attention
so, lets not do it for free
This attention is only flowing donations to wikipedia.
Tax billionaires out of existence.
One can only dream
Of course the community driven, anarchic nature of Wikipedia is a threat to the status quo of capitalists dominating society. Musk can’t stand this, because it shows how ultra wealthy, incompetent dicktators like him are unnecessary.
Wikipedia is anything but anarchy. There’s so much bureaucracy it would surprise even Kafka.
I also don’t think Elon’s psyche is built around an abstract notion of economic systems. He’s simply a narcissist that desires shiny things, in a very basic and unrefined way. Rich people just want to add baubles to their menagerie.
Can we just put a bell on him at this point and let him run around in his own birthday party?
Community driven? Wikipedia? That shit has mods worse than reddit admins.
Wikipedia is by its own standards a propaganda organ for the status quo (a mainstream encyclopedia that summarizes mainstream science, history and journalism).
Time to put your tinfoil hat on and refuse to check any references for yourself.
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and WireMin
sorry this is not open source. Who is behind it, what is their gain and how do I trust whatever they claim in their website?
According to their FAQ: https://wiremin.org/#/FAQ
“We will release the design and/or reference code to the public when the initial version is stabilized.”
EDIT: After having fully read the FAQ, I must admit, their DHT (distributed hash table) protocol sounds very neat. Being something of a protocol geek, I’ll be the 1st to admit that I may be biased, so if a 2nd pair of knowledgeable eyes could try burst my bubble, just in case I’m missing something. I’d appreciate it. Thanks.
According to them, albeit with no documentation, source plus a firstname.lastname@gmail address as a contact. The lead developer seems to be an O’Reilly publisher of MySQL books but I can’t confirm that until I hear back from the developer.
Basically, these are some features:- “Wiremin is a protocol, not a service” - so no Terms Of Service
- No registration - the app cryptographically adds users by device, so no email, phone numbers or contact reading to recommend contacts.
- No data privacy concerns as the app is incapable of storing or collecting data,
- No ads by default; therefore none of all the related drag that comes with that.
- No central storage or processing servers - all done ‘on device’, E2EE,
- Community driven, (I’ve asked for elaboration of how this is achieved)
- No metadata tracking or leakage,
- PoW (Proof Of Work) to stop DDoS,
- Mnemonic backup of account info,
- opt-out diagnostics after crashes
- Unsend within 5 minutes…
- “Information we share” … We don’t have user information of any sort, so nothing will be shared." They go on to disclose needing to share with law enforcement info about third-party services you interact with though, like Google, Firebase or Apple push notification ids - which you can turn off
It really is quite impressive, technically & they seem to have coded themselves out of the equation as they can’t even see your password or recovery passphrase.
Be that as it may - as you rightly point out, all we need now is the source, without which, I doubt I could back it.
I’ve reached out requesting info on whether it will be full or partial source, roadmaps, transparency, funding for devs etc before downloading & trying this but it sounds fantastic - too much so, when compared to, say Discord or X.PS: My interest in this mostly academic intrigue, I don’t work for them or know them, I just found out about this a few hours ago. Most of the wording here is copypasta. I once wrote commercial protocols in the IoT space that were loosely based around early XMPP - until Google killed it. Which is why I’m so happy about the fedi existing despite the best efforts of Google.
Anyway, this protocol seems to resemble the functionality of the FOSS app Syncthing, at least on the surface. Of course with the addition of other tech. I’d love to see one or two features like this in Lemmy or Mastodon, even if I had no interest in the code. The cost of infrastructure & the need to administer it, for example, would disappear overnight.I feel like I just read a brochure for a product.
I was doing it more as a wishlist or an idea board to draw opinions from. However, as stated; as nice as it sounds, I’d rather admire the code than have the features without the code. Whoever did this though, was quite thoughtful about risks, including the - the ‘bus factor’.
As a comparison, I really liked the “Connect For Lemmy” app when I first joined up.
It has some great features, some of which are still not on Jeboa. The dev even said he’d open the source if there was interest. I gave up on waiting, uninstalled & now use Jeboa on mobile exclusively because Connect is still closed, as far as I know.
I am FOSS or nothing, if I an help it - especially in communications apps. If the source fails to materialise then I will forget this too - even if I can indulge in speculating on the methods used. There is a fair amount of skill & thought required to pull this off. The best part though, I’m hoping, is that as a protocol, it would be a great chat accompaniment to & not a replacement to Lemmy or Mastodon. Again, without the source, I can only guess.
Regardless, the fedi is young enough to be influenced by good ideas early, before it becomes too costly in time, effort & complexity, to undo or implement changes later.I am FOSS or nothing
even if I can indulge in speculating on the methods used
The only thing though is that you spend a whole lot of time/verbosity describing in detail all the good points about the product, and then just mention it’s anti-FOSS nature at the very end of your long comment.
Usually someone very pro-FOSS will mention that negative up front.
Or seek to implement those features in a free & open way; but the features have to necessitate the effort & if the features are not clarified then no effort, especially a distributed one can even begin to replicate them. What do you suppose ought to be done first when building an app - the feature request or the code?
In any case, I wrote this right at the top of the post before getting to the good stuff, so you could have stopped there if you wanted to:
“We will release the design and/or reference code to the public when the initial version is stabilized.”
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as I see it, the problem in your statement is that while you mention you’re pro-FOSS, you got overexcited by the claims of an unknown entity over technologies that you like and at the same time you have no source. Just promises. They could even be a startup that has just put all the buzzwords there while in fact on their code they don’t do anything of that and they just use a centralized server with symetric encryption and have the symmetric key stored in the code. The app will look like it works till proven that it is not. As long as they don’t want to publish their code, you getting overexcited (at least for me), is pointless.
There was an example with a startup that was doing something similar to that, not in that magnitude with a stored key, but something equally bullshit until they were exposed. Quite early in their journey. Cannot remember the name right now but there was a good analysis by a researcher. If I remember it, I will add it.
Bluesky is another alternative, whilst not decentralized, its been pretty cool over there. I also have a mastodon account though
So what’s the point? enshitification will inevitably hit them as well and then people will have to migrate again and again
I love the fediverse, but it hasn’t fully solved the migration need problem. If I open an account on an instance which I later discover I don’t like, I have to migrate for that as well.
The point as I see it is just limited to who do I want to follow, and what platforms can I use to do so? If bluesky turns to shit in a decade, but I get value out of it for that decade, maybe that’s enough for my needs.
(FWIW, I am not on bluesky)
But at least the user content doesn’t disappear into a black hole. Like what happened to parts of reddit.
I may be missing the reference here?
If I open an account on an instance which I later discover I don’t like, I have to migrate for that as well.
For Mastodon there’s a feature for transferring your account from one server to another, with its history, etc.
Oh cool, is there anything similar for lemmy?
I haven’t had to search it for lemmy, so I honestly don’t know.
It’s certainly possible. I’m giving it a shot. I prefer federated systems, as I said, I also have Mastodon
Ah. So this os the end goal - obtain very popular and influential things on the internet - in this case communication and knowledge/facts, and destroy them in such a way that only technofascists like himself can even find them remotely useful.
It’s the ultimate way to fuck up any democratic society and plunge the world further into chaos. What a dumpster fire.
Seize the means of information.
What’s it feel like Musky to make a shitty world more shit because you’re an emotionally unstable needy little bitch? Where’s the fucking Mars colony you stupid whiney piss baby
Is he just a greedy idiot, or is this part of some multi-step plan to make sure the internet is filled with disinformation? At this point I think both things are true
So he did get Twitter just to ruin it and take it away from the left. This proves it, because he wants to do it again to Wikipedia whilst calling it “Wokipedia” like a broken, right wing soundboard. Neither platform allowed lies and, since it’s the right and their only move is lies, in his view that makes them biased. Elon intentionally sabotaged twitter because it wouldn’t let him and his rich cunt friends lie and now they want to do it to Wikipedia. He genuinely doesn’t have a moral foundation, it’s just lies and manipulation all the way down to his shriveled, rotten core.
I found this interesting article when trying to understand why he’s doing what he’s doing with Twitter. What was Elon Musk’s strategy for Twitter? - NBC News
On the day that public records revealed that Elon Musk had become Twitter’s biggest shareholder, an unknown sender texted the billionaire and recommended an article imploring him to acquire the social network outright.
Musk’s purchase of Twitter, the 3,000-word anonymous article said, would amount to a “declaration of war against the Globalist American Empire.” The sender of the texts was offering Musk, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO, a playbook for the takeover and transformation of Twitter…
The text messages described a series of actions Musk should take after he gained full control of the social media platform: “Step 1: Blame the platform for its users; Step 2: Coordinated pressure campaign; Step 3: Exodus of the Bluechecks; Step 4: Deplatforming.”
That pressure campaign is against the Anti Defamation League which Musk has been trying to do.
So I guess he’s doing it all for far right adulation.
What a fucking loser
Please make this a post of its own somewhere. I’ve long suspected that the intent was to ruin Twitter for political motives rather than do anything socially constructive with it. Finally, this is undeniable proof from a court of law.
I can understand his anger, but only because of who he is and what Wikipedia is.
Wikipedia attempts to have a neutral point of view (NPOV). It is extremely nuanced but it basically means being impartial, relying on the verifiable facts & sources and not giving undue weight or emphasis on fringe views. The site also has a lot of active maintainers who go in and strive for that NPOV, deleting vandalism or other acts meant to shift away from it. It’s certainly not perfect but it clearly works in the main.
NPOV is a hard thing to take for someone like Musk. He says & repeats incredibly dumb things on a daily basis and is highly susceptible to misinfo. He also has a massive ego, narcissistic personality disorder and an incredibly thin skin. He doesn’t like it when somebody says something he doesn’t like to hear and he doesn’t like it when he can’t control the person saying it. I have no idea why Wikipedia is pushing his buttons but I imagine that their bio about Musk is not pretty and it riles him up no end.
Yeah. I assume Wikipedia has the words “massive fuck up”, more than once, in the section covering Musk’s aquisition of Twitter.
I could go read it, but I’ve read enough about that clown for a lifetime.
“Wokipedia” should not be confused with Wookieepedia the star wars focused wiki. Though it isnt as abjectly insane as Transformerspedia though there is some cross-over.
Deeply unwelcome. I hate that this is even a thought that he has had.
Buying and destroying Twitter started with a joke like this.
Unless Wikipedia is a public company with fiduciary responsibilities, can’t they just say, “fuck you. No.”?
EDIT: They’re a non commercial 501©(3). They can say “fuck you. No.”
There’s that, and the fact that Jimmy Wales might have a reverse uno card, as he is quietly developing a free and non profit social media platform of his own called trust cafe.
Well I’m sure glad someone looked into that. Still, I’m anxious he might try to do Bad Things™ to it. Ya know, like he does whenever he gets some idea in his head about something, and then Bad Things™ happen to it.
Did it?
Twitter was public. Wikimedia is a 501 non-profit.
He can’t buy it.
No, I know. Still feels less than good
He’ll probably rename it “X-pedia”.
Musk is always looking for his next high. He desperately wants that bong hit of attention that getting his name in the news brings to him. He’s an attention whore, who can afford to burn through billions of dollars. I’m surprised he didn’t buy Reddit years ago.
When he started talking about buying Twitter, I was quite sure his entire goal was manipulating how the website felt about him - as in, blocking the kid tracking his plane and banning people who offended him.
He now wants Wikipedia, and my opinion is only reinforced: he wants to edit his page.
He wants to shut down any sources of dissent.
“We must dissent.”
-Sister Miriam Godwinson
Unexpected, but welcome Alpha Centauri reference.
I need to replay this game. I remember really hating Sister Miriam
Please don’t go. The drones need you. They look up to you.
nerve staples
That’s what he wanted everyone to believe - offering 420 jokes as a share price he was willing to pay. He was ready to pay anything & even said so in an interview - that X is not about money, it’s more than that. Though he complained about how much he paid for it, he got a bargain for the ability to centralise, control, monitor & distort the dissemination of knowledge, perception of culture, international wars, to prolong or incite culture wars.
Imagine one guy deciding which governments could use it as an emergency response tool, tracking millions of accounts; many of whom were in positions of influence ie politicians, law enforcement, judiciary, reporters, authors, financial types, companies of all sizes, government agencies, local councils & everything in between.
I remember thinking what a bargain he got that ability for. How much would any dictator pay for this sort of ability?You seem to be vastly overestimating the usefulness and adoption rate of Twatter, even at its peak.
Bits of data, ie user accounts when viewed singularly or in small numbers are information. In the 100 000s to millions, they become intelligence.
Reddit had no bluetick businesses, journalists, authors, government reps, entire countries used it for emergency news etc . . . he wanted to destroy those, while shit-posting at the same time.
At least it reminded me to renew my annual donation to Wikipedia. Fucking Muskunt.
Hell I think this has concern me to start doing an annual donation. Fuck Musk.
I’ve donated in the past and, thanks to the big baby, I think I’ll make a donation again
Why? Wikipedia makes a huge profit from donations that get put into trustees pockets. Fuck them.
[Citation needed]
“People will come up to me during fundraising season and ask if Wikipedia’s in trouble,” said Andrew Lih, an associate professor of journalism at American University and the author of “The Wikipedia Revolution.” “I have to reassure them that not only is Wikipedia not in trouble, but that it’s making more money than ever before and is at no risk of going away.”
In the fiscal year that ended last June, WMF reported net assets in excess of $77 million.
Suggestion: Donate instead to long time contributors directly
that was 8 years ago, have anything more up-to-date?
It still exists in our capitalist world so probably even more now
Just look at the data Wikimedia releases themselves.
DON’T YOU THREATEN SOMETHING I ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT, FUCKER.
But seriously, I can’t imagine the fine folks at Wikimedia seeing what happened to shitter and thinking there’s any value in having him in charge.
You suck, Lonnie. Go away.
Oh I bet he reeeally hates Lonnie as a nickname 😂
Is Musk in this thread?
Nah, but his paid meme troll farms probably are.
No but when he Googles himself - which I am sure he does daily, then he’ll know to stay within the confines of his X domain. We’re claiming back the internets. :)
Seriously though, some young person might still look up to him as a space role-model without ever knowing that the guy is a waste of space.
