I just can’t fathom the mindset that this kinda prop works on. You know the prop that is the most prevalent, basically “dont go to hexbear, they’re [x]!”
Not just hexbear mind you but you get the idea. “Don’t go there/learn that/think this”. I don’t get it, how does it work?
Im not even being hyperbolic, i literally don’t get it.
Whenever i feel like someone’s telling me not to do something, i get a powerful urge to do that thing. The more adamant they are, the more powerful the urge.
I remember it was a month into moving to lemmy that i saw my first “stay away from hexbear” thread (the reddit api fiasco) and i was like “fuck yes they’re so insistent… i have to see whats up in there”
Am i unusually defiant? I thought this trait was human nature.
I also have the urge you describe. Maybe there’s some selection bias at play here, ideologically. A lemmy full of tech people who likely have tech jobs and seem to express conventional reddity tech person politics: that’s multiple axes of being rewarded for not asking difficult questions. Many of them were probably the good kids in school, who did all their homework and never vandalized anything. Going along to get along has served them well so far, so why even stop to listen to those weirdos outside the garden wall?
And OTOH you have a big diverse group of people from all niches of life who’s main unifying ideology is one they’ve all arrived at by suspicion and curiosity. I’d bet that most of us had some early experiences being treated differently for whatever reason (race, sexuality/identity, poverty, being neuroatypical etc) that create a growing dissonance when we’re exposed to childhood propaganda that, perhaps, the kids who the teacher has never been mean to just passively nod at. Not because they’re dumb or any lazy explanation like that, but because they haven’t had the experience of being shunted off the narrow rail of normalcy that makes one feel the bitterness of having to mumble a pledge of allegiance to a fucking flag every morning, and listen to people go on and on about how there is no better society on earth than the one where you already feel completely stifled and alienated, and if anyone says there’s a better society we’ll bomb them off the face of the planet.
Your point here might also explain the frustration they seem to express when talking about it, because interacting with us makes them have to confront the fact they’ve been playing life on easy mode and are lagging behind in curiosity because of it and they’d prefer to keep going through life like they always have
They are not materialist. They are idealist. Thus the revolution is the rapture. Anyone thst doesn’t fully commit their soul to the revolution will never see the light of heaven. So to them salvation is through faith not deed. So long as they belive hard enough in the revolution than they will be offered salvation at some point.
It does help them not feel guilty knowing they will never be part of a socialist project here in america.
It’s because they’re cringey R*dditors, meaning they’re hall monitor squares who completely give in to peer pressure and do as they’re told. Normal people usually respond to taboo by going, “You’re fucking with me. This can’t be that bad. I have to see it for myself.”
These Ledditor losers are the type of people that drug PSAs actually work on. “Don’t smoke pot.” “Well, the man on the TV said I shouldn’t smoke pot, so I guess I won’t smoke pot.”
I think it works the same way religion does in that certain things are just “bad” and you just avoid them at all costs. You rely on someone to tell you these things because that makes you the smart one for not having had to burn your hand on the stove to find out for yourself.
I just can’t fathom the mindset that this kinda prop works on. You know the prop that is the most prevalent, basically “dont go to hexbear, they’re [x]!”
Not just hexbear mind you but you get the idea. “Don’t go there/learn that/think this”. I don’t get it, how does it work?
Im not even being hyperbolic, i literally don’t get it.
Whenever i feel like someone’s telling me not to do something, i get a powerful urge to do that thing. The more adamant they are, the more powerful the urge.
I remember it was a month into moving to lemmy that i saw my first “stay away from hexbear” thread (the reddit api fiasco) and i was like “fuck yes they’re so insistent… i have to see whats up in there”
Am i unusually defiant? I thought this trait was human nature.
I also have the urge you describe. Maybe there’s some selection bias at play here, ideologically. A lemmy full of tech people who likely have tech jobs and seem to express conventional reddity tech person politics: that’s multiple axes of being rewarded for not asking difficult questions. Many of them were probably the good kids in school, who did all their homework and never vandalized anything. Going along to get along has served them well so far, so why even stop to listen to those weirdos outside the garden wall?
And OTOH you have a big diverse group of people from all niches of life who’s main unifying ideology is one they’ve all arrived at by suspicion and curiosity. I’d bet that most of us had some early experiences being treated differently for whatever reason (race, sexuality/identity, poverty, being neuroatypical etc) that create a growing dissonance when we’re exposed to childhood propaganda that, perhaps, the kids who the teacher has never been mean to just passively nod at. Not because they’re dumb or any lazy explanation like that, but because they haven’t had the experience of being shunted off the narrow rail of normalcy that makes one feel the bitterness of having to mumble a pledge of allegiance to a fucking flag every morning, and listen to people go on and on about how there is no better society on earth than the one where you already feel completely stifled and alienated, and if anyone says there’s a better society we’ll bomb them off the face of the planet.
Your point here might also explain the frustration they seem to express when talking about it, because interacting with us makes them have to confront the fact they’ve been playing life on easy mode and are lagging behind in curiosity because of it and they’d prefer to keep going through life like they always have
Hmm, thanks for that thoughtful reply, it certainly tracks
They are not materialist. They are idealist. Thus the revolution is the rapture. Anyone thst doesn’t fully commit their soul to the revolution will never see the light of heaven. So to them salvation is through faith not deed. So long as they belive hard enough in the revolution than they will be offered salvation at some point.
It does help them not feel guilty knowing they will never be part of a socialist project here in america.
It’s because they’re cringey R*dditors, meaning they’re hall monitor squares who completely give in to peer pressure and do as they’re told. Normal people usually respond to taboo by going, “You’re fucking with me. This can’t be that bad. I have to see it for myself.”
These Ledditor losers are the type of people that drug PSAs actually work on. “Don’t smoke pot.” “Well, the man on the TV said I shouldn’t smoke pot, so I guess I won’t smoke pot.”
I think it works the same way religion does in that certain things are just “bad” and you just avoid them at all costs. You rely on someone to tell you these things because that makes you the smart one for not having had to burn your hand on the stove to find out for yourself.