ID: ally @missmayn posted: “the democrats were more energized and organized against campus protests than the current authoritarian takeover.”
ID: ally @missmayn posted: “the democrats were more energized and organized against campus protests than the current authoritarian takeover.”
Nobody was blaming anyone in the post, just making an observation.
But yes the first step in growth is realizing your mistakes and they refuse to do that. Fascism depends entirely on lazy, uninvolved and conflict averse people. Nowhere in the world has fascism ever come to power without the support of “centrists”. The US democratic party is a party of centrists with no goals and no interest in actually doing anything. They have created the perfect breeding ground for a fascist takeover.
I have posted it before and i will post it again, the democratic party is not free of blame. They cant just lean back and blame everything on Trump or Musk or voters.
The Democrats will learn the wrong lesson from this: “We need to convince more Republicans to vote for us!”
They were taught the wrong lesson. The left refuses to vote for them because they don’t perfectly represent them; moderates turn out and can be swung from time to time. What tangible evidence do they have that moving left will gain them more votes than it will cost them?
Actual data from Bernie Sanders’ campaign showing that he was vastly more popular overall (and especially in red states) than the centrists.
And Bernie endorsed Harris, and she lost.
And? Do you think an endorsement automatically means everyone who would have voted for Bernie would vote for Harris? Like I said, Bernie’s popularity over other Democratic candidates was most pronounced in red states. Those votes didn’t transfer to Harris, they transfered to Trump, or to no one at all.
Like I said, the wrong lesson was taught.
Why do you insist on absolving the Democrats of responsibility for their own decisions? It’s on them to learn the right lessons, and they didn’t. It is difficult to get someone to understand something when their salary depends on them not understanding it. Left-populism is the clear solution to their problems but it scares them because it is in direct opposition to their financial interests.
They perfectly represent you.
They do not. You have the unfortunate habit of reducing those who disagree with you to inaccurate caricatures, in a vain attempt to bolster your own poorly formed ethos.
Oh cool. How have they failed to represent you to perfection?
From the person who literally just misrepresented the entire left thus:
I’m a leftist. They are neo-liberals. My wishes for them to beat out the fascists does not mean they represent me.
So they represent you perfectly in all but name, then?
Or are there policies of theirs you disagree with?
Are you suggesting that neo-liberals represent leftists?
I’m not directly affected by American politics. But it is interesting to see how it behaves. The Democrats seem to have an identity crisis, they appear to have expected to win because “who would vote for the orange guy?” mentality, but they showed their lack of vision by allowing Biden to run first then switching to Kamala when it didn’t work out. In the meantime Trump was being a salesman/conman with bold proposals that would benefit the people, even if they weren’t true (as it usual with politics).
The Democrats needed, from the start, a somewhat young, centrist and fierce candidate, that could chew Trump during debates, thus turning Republican voters, but the Democrat leadership is sadly lacking and not getting on with the times. I see news about the GOP and Turning point USA quite often, never good but very visible while from the Democrat side there is just silence, just waiting the Republicans to lose.
We’ve had too many centrists and the only time any centrist is “fierce” is when they’re pitted against a progressive.
Now do Worker Rights, Unions and Economic Equality instead of Liberalism.
The democrats still win but once again, lots of strike breaking and missed opportunities to enact drastic improvements.
Those things only are allowed because without them, a worker revolt would have obliterated those favoring under regulated Capitalistism.