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- world@quokk.au
Ok call me a bad guy about what follows, but I’ve been thinking a bit about this lately and I think I agree with this call. We don’t let children make the “adult” decisions until they’re either 18 or 21 in most places. We all may know a kids going to go nowhere in life and probably be a alcoholic later in life, but we don’t give them alcohol now cause their brain is still developing.
Once your brain is developed? Go right ahead and do whatever you want. But until your brain is mostly done growing it’s up to adults to protect children from those decisions. And unfortunately this is one of those decisions IMHO.
But like growing up as a straight dude I wanted bigger muscles, like another foot of height, and a dick that would make anyone jealous. Which all that would have made me feel the way I wanted, but no sane adult would actually take me serious if I asked. Now that I’m older I can do all those things and that’d be my perogative, but it’s no longer necessary cause I love me for who I am. Which I only got there cause no adult would make me into a super human freak of a man at the age or 14.
So like, dress and act how you want, but actual genderaffirming care should be left till at least on can have a drink over it first.
Edit: this is even more fucked, but like if I hypothetically had a teenage girl and she came up to me and asked for gender affirming care so she could have bigger boobs or whatever I would never let her, but I’m supposed to allow my hypothetical teenage son decide to have boobs?
Just FYI, most “gender-affirming surgery” in the below 18 group is males having their moobs removed because male boobs are usually a source of social problems like being bullied in school. This will mostly affect straight young cis men if we’re going purely by the numbers.
So like, be as bigoted as you want, but don’t pretend to be informed on the subject just because you feel like jumping on the right wing bandwagon.
Really? Cause most people I’ve seen defend it, even in this thread, have been about hormone blockers and whatnot
This seems fair to me. Underage people can’t get a tattoo, but they can cut their dick off in a hospital?
“cut their dick off” yeah that’s exactly what gender affirming care is. This isn’t about surgery, it’s about HRT and puberty blockers, and the regret rates for all of those things are super low. Besides, there is already an epidemic of trans suicides. Do I need to repeat that? People are killing themselves because of transphobia, and yes, detransitioners exist, but most people don’t regret getting gender reaffirming care, and again, this is about HRT and puberty blockers, not just surgery.
You mean how in the US they literally mutilate the genitalia of a majority of male children as soon as they are born and how no-one is doing anything about it?
I agree. That should be illegal.
Those babies can’t possibly consent to having their prepuces removed. Forced genital mutilation. Fucking disgusting.
Nobody is doing that. “Gender-affirming care” also includes giving hormone blockers to a kid who started puberty way too early.
“As someone with no horse in this race, this seems fair to me”
Is this guy just a little ass fly hanging around Trump’s crappy nappy or something?
Oh how cute! The fascist North and South America bros are having a genocide contest!