This is gonna be a bit of a weird one, try to keep an open mind.

I went to a nudist resort with a couple friends a few times last year, it was a good time, we’re hoping to go back a few times this year once the weather warms up again.

It’s not a sexual thing, it’s just nice to hang out without pants, no laundry to do when you get home, etc. There are some swingers who frequent it, but they’re very respectful about it, they’ll ask if you’re “in the lifestyle” but if you’re not they don’t pressure you and let it drop. None of my friends involved in this story are swingers.

I’ve been kind of floating the idea to a few other friends I thought might be interested. It’s a mixed bag, some are open to it, others aren’t, not really surprising there, my own wife isn’t interested, and I get that it’s not everyone’s thing.

Two of the people I floated the idea to are a married couple. We’ll call them Will and Janet (not their real names.) Will wasn’t interested, but Janet was open to it.

The resort posted their event schedule for this year recently, so I’ve been talking with the friends I went with last year to figure out when we want to go. We narrowed it down to a couple events we’re interested in, and I’ve been letting my other friends who were interested know so we can figure out our plans.

Janet messages me back after I tell her what weekends we’re planning on. Said she asked Will and that he wasn’t comfortable with her going so she’s going to pass.

And that just kind of rubs me the wrong way. Every relationship has a different dynamic of course, but personally I have a hard time imagining telling my wife that “I’m not comfortable” with her doing something she wants to do unless it is something outright dangerous.

Little extra context, we’re all in our 30s, we’re all mutual friends, it wouldn’t be particularly unusual for any of us to go hang out with anyone else in this group. I’ve hung out with with just Janet before, we have spare keys to each other’s houses, and I’m pretty sure my mom regards them as basically extras of her own children, in short we’re all close and trust each other.

The other friends I went with last year are similarly close, a couple, we’ll call them Erin and Steve. Will’s actually known Erin longer than I have, and probably worth mentioning, went skinny dipping with her and some other friends once back in their teens or early 20s. They never dated or anything like that, she’s just kind of “one of the guys” the dudes there were gonna jump into a frozen creek naked so she joined them. And Steve is a very chill dude.

Will is also not a controlling guy. This is the first time I’ve ever heard anything like that from him (albeit second-hand through Janet) very much a live and let live kind of dude. He’s maybe a little prudish and old fashioned in his own tastes, but accepting that his tastes aren’t for everyone.

I’m not really planning on pushing the issue, for all I know Janet got cold feet and is using him as an excuse, and unless I see any other sign of him getting weird, I’m just gonna chalk it up to their relationship dynamic being different from my own. But I just kind of wanted to see if that rubs anyone else the wrong way.

  • Azzu@lemm.ee
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    It doesn’t rub me the wrong way because it’s incredibly understandable. People are generally jealous, people have hangups with trust, people want to feel powerful.

    Whatever the guy’s reason is exactly, he is essentially not fine with what his wife wants to do, and even if she is completely fine with not doing something to alleviate her husband’s uncomfortableness, the need to do so in the first place is simply sad. It would just be optimal if everyone could do whatever they want at all times.

    I make it a point to figure out my issues (why am I uncomfortable with something?) and if it makes sense to get rid of it, to get rid of it. It’d be nice if everyone did that but people are often just not in a mental place to be able to do that.

    So in the end, I do very much understand what you mean, however I don’t really get upset by this. It’s incredibly common to “restrict” your partner like this, I mean, monogamy itself is already a restriction. So like you said, you should just let people do what they do, and be happy that it’s not like that for you.

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    This sounds like a situation where the two of them chatted about what was best for the two of them and came to a reasonable decision.

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    Nah, it’s one of those things where I know everyone has their own way of managing relationship decisions.

    It isn’t abusive, it isn’t an out of line way of responding, and it’s a reasonable boundary for a monogamous marriage. It may or may not be a boundary that everyone has, but it isn’t unreasonable.

    Now, me? I’m fine with the concept. Me and my wife sometimes travel without each other, and with friends of the “opposite” sex. To us it wouldn’t be an issue. If we didn’t trust each other, we wouldn’t be married.

    I might or might not be comfortable with where the resort is though. Some places just aren’t reliably safe for any tourist, much less a naked female tourist, though I doubt a reputable resort is going to be any more unsafe than any hotel in that regard. Those places tend to have decent security.

    But, nah, no red flags here. Just a married couple making a decision together.

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    Gonna try to answer this as neutral as I can but frankly speaking when they said “I do” they made a pact to respect each other’s wishes and to establish whatever boundaries they deem is necessary to keep both themselves and each other happy amongst other things. Although some outsiders might have different opinions on what’s right or wrong that doesn’t mean that it applies to what they consider is right or wrong. If the husband said they didn’t feel comfortable and the partner is respecting their partners feelings, not being forced to, it doesn’t give another person outside the right to say that they are in the wrong since its their relationship. Unless you think she’s being physical, mentally abused or manipulated which judging from the story is a no.

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    6 hours ago

    Feels fake somehow don’t know why.

    Anyway, respect everybody’s boundaries and let people live. Maybe you have been a little bit too excited to all this thing and its you that is rushing your friends who don’t want to hurt your feelings.

    I have been to plenty of nudist places and we had our couple (never swing) sex there as well. But either BOTH are ok with it, or its just not nice at all to keep pushing, which is what you seems to be doing.

    Maybe I am wrong, after all I am only a random dude on the 'net who doesn’t know you except from what you write, and I haven’t even checked your profile or past posts.

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    I’m not really planning on pushing the issue, for all I know Janet got cold feet and is using him as an excuse

    I was actually going to point this out. I’m glad you anticipated it.

    But also I want to add that I’m a woman in a relationship with a man who would support me doing whatever I want in life, and if I wanted to go on a trip to a nudist place and he didn’t, I wouldn’t want to go. Not only because I like spending time with him most of all people, but also because, while I don’t imagine I’d need to defend myself at such a location, I prefer to have him around in case I ever feel the need for violence. He keeps my hands clean quite nicely.

    But it’s mostly the “he’s my favorite person so if enjoy doing something more if he were there” thing.

    The funny thing about this is, my partner is a nudist, and I’m not. I asked him if he would want to go to a nudist resort if I wanted to say no, and he said he’d rather spend time with me at home than go somewhere to be nude (and he doesn’t wear anything at home anyway).

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      Oh and I’m not not a nudist because of prude things. I run chilly so if I don’t have clothes on, it’s because I’m uncomfortably hot. Just a quick of my biology- I come in two settings, blankets and hoodies, or soaked in sweat.

      I’m not anemic anymore either so 🤷

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    A good relationship is when you communicate a want / need to your partner and then it is in their court to say if they can fulfil that. Sometimes people have hangups and good partners respect those quirks.

  • shapesandstuff@feddit.org
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    Kinda sounds like you might feel at home in the polyamory community.

    Lots of people who aren’t “in it” don’t have that sort of energy

    I have a hard time imagining telling my wife that “I’m not comfortable” with her doing something she wants to do unless it is something outright dangerous.

    Its just a matter of boundaries and agreements really. Most mono couples have an implied set of rules rather than customising their relationship experience by doing the work to define boundaries together. Very much a societal thing i think.

    Whether or not you were planning on swinging, that option is now in Wills head and he’s afraid Janet might participate.

    In the end it’s just jealousy, but most people struggle with that emotion some times, no matter their relationship type.