LIB : I am now concerned about Guantanamo Bay.

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    https://old.reddit.com/r/WitchesVsPatriarchy/comments/1id9fsw/trump_is_sending_30000_migrants_to_guantanamo_bay/m9xfa84/

    But you do have people pledging to show up at useless protests, being told “They’re not going to do anything except put your face in a fascist database” and still saying shit like “I don’t care about the consequences, what else can you do??”

    A lot of these people aren’t lost causes, they’re lost opportunities. Their consciousness is butting up against the aperture of their politics.

    We may be on the outside of a walled garden but it still feels like a failing on the left’s part

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      they’re lost opportunities

      They never were opportunities! You’re not fucking organizing a “resistance” on hexbear let alone reddit-logo. That’s not how these things work!

      Have you completely lost the plot? This is an even lamer and tamer redux than 2016 for fucks sake. We’ve been in this story. We know how it ends. Nothing has changed with these people!

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          Yeah so your argument is that ‘we’ shouldn’t set up a booth because it’s pointless aesthetics, but their booths are what?

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              I’m being super aggressive because I have ADHD and I am frustrated because I am trying to understand practically what you mean and how it makes sense. I still don’t understand how these arguments don’t boil down to online posting.

              My problem is that many leftists here cannot see past the base of the Rachet party. Would some of these people like socialism? Yes sure. Would some of these people fight with us? yes sure. However the majority of these people are fine with returning to the status quo antecedent where we had a Democrat President running the human grinder of capitalist imperialism. In as much when they “fight with us”, they are going to stop at the first available opportunity.

              You aren’t going to convince these people en-masse to become committed to the cause. They have neither the will to fight, nor to educate themselves. Nor have they been kicked down by life enough to see the Democrats as another foot to the ribs. They’re good with good enough because good enough feels fine to them personally. To them politics and being political is a treat.

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                All I’m saying is that it’s sad to see people who are so ripe for radicalization that they’re willing to throw themselves on the gears when they know it won’t change anything. I’m not arguing with anything you’re saying.

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                  they’re willing to throw themselves on the gears when they know it won’t change anything

                  They’re posting that they’re willing. The gears are there. The gears have been there. They haven’t been throwing themselves in the least. The lib moron who had 2 “Molotov cocktails” that were made from nips threw himself into the gears. He was stupid, he was ineffective, he didn’t know what he was doing, but he threw himself in to the gears. These people are posting.

                  willem-van-spronsen threw himself into the gears knowing it wouldn’t change anything. Pretending that these posters are in the same class category is insulting to real comrades.