This is a gutting of the scientific research establishment which has created much of American prosperity since World War II, when the US used the promise of survival and stable funding to lure academics from Germany.
This is a gutting of the scientific research establishment which has created much of American prosperity since World War II, when the US used the promise of survival and stable funding to lure academics from Germany.
I don’t understand this statement. Are your only friends people you agree with 100% on all things? That must get boring, what do you even talk about?
I have friends that voted for Trump. Not many but a couple. Am I friends with all Republicans? No just like I’m not friends with all democrats.
In order to radicalize someone, one of the first steps is cutting them off from people that disagree with what you are trying to teach/preach/say. When you pre emptivly do their cutting of for these republican friends/ family you are just leaving them in an echo chamber of hate/racism. Believe it out not, like what some others have said, not all republican voters are bad people.
No, but there are certain important things that I do hold very important and would struggle to connect with someone on if they disagree.
I believe America is the country of second chances, the land where if you want to get educated it will be available to you on fair terms, and so forth.
Now we’re training teachers on how to damage efforts by ICE to detain the children of migrants at school to coerce and deport. That’s not my vision for America, it’s not right and I don’t respect anyone who thinks it is.
I mean, that’s just how people decide on who to be friends with right? I’m more likely to be friends with people that like camping and bonfires than people that like formula one. Do I have friends that like formula one? Sure.
I’m more likely to be friends with democrats but I do have a couple of republican friends.
My dude… I can theoretically be compatible with someone on literally every point except detaining innocent children, and that’s a deal breaker. We’ll never be friends.
Maybe there’s not enough selection of people around you, maybe it’s just not important to you (which bums me out) but it’s your life.
Hurting innocent people is 110% shitty, I don’t care who’s doing it.
I hear you, but not all Republicans support that. Are you a democrat, Do you support the genocide in Gaza? Are you independent? Then do you not care about either Gaza or kids being detained? Are you a different party? Do you agree with everything your pay does?
I also get everyone has something that will cause them to not be friends with people. That’s your choice and I’m not saying you have to be friends with people. Just don’t be a hypocrite and pick one, two, or five things and hate an entire group of people because of it.
I hate 30% of what Christians have done or stand for. It doesn’t mean I hate all Christians. But that is a choice that I have made.
It’s a cute attempt at comparison.
If Biden had sold weapons like this before, if Gaza was occurring at Biden’s hands in 2016 having beaten dump, I would not have voted for him in 2020. In actuality, we have direct proof in 2016 onwards of caging babies on the Mexican border, yet your friends voted for him again without much hesitation.
I’m a democratic socialist, no I don’t support genocide and made that extremely clear to anyone when it came up. Do your friends similarly denounce baby caging? Especially considering the direct precedent in living memory?
Getting a tad childish?
Yes, yes they do denounce seperating kids from their families at the border. I’ve talked about it and other things we don’t like about our parties, what they are doing, and why we still vote for them. How we all dislike choosing the best of two bad options. How maybe a ranked choice system would be better.
You think blindly following one party vs another is any better? No, you think you on your high horse telling them they are scum for voting one way or another is better? How many life long Republicans have you gotten to vote blue? I’ve changed several peoples minds by talking with them, hearing them out, and not just assuming they are terrible people.
Dude you brought up stupid comparisons, people will disrespect you
I couldn’t care less about people respecting me. But why are they stupid comparisons in your opinion?
Sheesh, apparently I’m not the only one getting a bit high tension. Cool it. I feel strongly about bombing kids, and caging them. It should be obvious why.
I’m leaving this discussion, I realize I’m asking you to be frank with your friends, but most people are hesitant to. I hope you think about this, but it’s unlikely either of us will change, myself especially.
Take care.
Retro video games, modern video games, toy collecting, programming, Star Trak, classic movies, basically, all sorts of super inconsequential shit because they are my friends and not people I need to argue with. Also, no one gives a shit what others outside the circle are doing so long as its not harmful.
Unfortunately, we have a large group of people who literally only want to argue and do harm. At this point, I would argue all Republicans are bad people. If you are just a boring normal Conservative, the Democratic Party is right there, being boring and Conservative.
I believe you are missing the point by latching on to one sentence and replying to that instead of the concept.
You are as wrong about them all being bad as they are saying all democrats are bad.
Nah. They had his first term to figure it out. Then they had every time he’s opened his mouth since then, the 2020 debates, the 2024 campaign, all the news about Project 2025, the JD Vance “I will lie if that’s what it takes” moment, and so very many more.
And when Trump looked like he might be imploding a few months ago, they all started jumping ship, and distancing themselves. And the moment he was back in power the sucking up began again.
Oh, you meant the folks who aren’t in office who only voted for him?
How many of them spent his first term writing to their Republican representatives complaining about them being in bed with white nationalists? How many of them registered their displeasure about project 2025? How many of them wrote in to tell their representatives that the lies about the 2020 election were destroying the nation? How many wrote in to tell off their representatives for objecting to the certification of the 2020 election? How many wrote in to complain when every single Republican in the House of Representatives voted against investigating the penetration of white nationalists into the military and law enforcement? How many wrote in to stand up for Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, and Mitt Romney, all of whom I also don’t like, but who were the only R to speak truth to power in his first term?
A vanishingly small percentage, that’s how many. Because if it weren’t, this wouldn’t be true: