…So you agree advocating against Harris was a mistake? The thing that everyone else said would be a mistake?
What the ever loving fuck are you talking about? You think when I said the powerful, i meant Muslims and anti-war protesters who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Harris? Or working-class voters who decided Harris’ shitty economic plan wasn’t worth standing in a poll line? And I guess you must have thought the powerless were the people who spent over a billion dollars campaigning with Mark Cuban? Is that how broken your brain is?
What the ever loving fuck are you talking about? You think when I said the powerful, i meant Muslims and anti-war protesters who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Harris?
It would seem that they felt that punishing the powerless for Harris’s mistakes was okay.
Seriously Pug? You think that Muslims watching their people get ethnically cleansed aren’t powerless? You think college students getting beaten by cops and accused of antisemitism for protesting a genocide aren’t the powerless? You think people exercising the tiniest amount of control they have over their democracy by withholding their vote means their not the powerless ones? How many groups are willing to scapegoat before you start holding people with actual institutional power accountable?
Seriously Pug? You think that Muslims watching their people get ethnically cleansed aren’t powerless? You think college students getting beaten by cops and accused of antisemitism for protesting a genocide aren’t the powerless? You think people exercising the tiniest amount of control they have over their democracy by withholding their vote means their not the powerless ones?
Your argument is that the powerless shouldn’t be held accountable for the sins of the powerful. Yet simultaneously, you claim that voters punishing American minorities with genocide and a fascist regime is justified, because of the sins of the Dem elite.
Sorry that you think that welcoming genocide is only bad when Dem elites do it, and not when voters ushering in fascism do it.
Yet simultaneously, you claim that voters punishing American minorities with genocide and a fascist regime is justified, because of the sins of the Dem elite.
Yeah, this, “Won’t someone think of the minorities!?!?” shit would carry more weight if minority groups weren’t also abandoning the Democrats. Latino support for the Democratic ticket dropped 8 points between 2020 and 2024. Muslim support dropped 49%. Black support for Harris dropped as well, even if it was mostly among men. And I’m just going by exit polls; I’m not even counting the people who stopped showing up.
Maybe you can start parsing out which minority groups have the most power, and then start blaming them too. That might let you scapegoat someone else a little longer, so you postpone holding the people with actual power accountable a little bit longer.
Yeah, this, “Won’t someone think of the minorities!?!?” shit would carry more weight if minority groups weren’t also abandoning the Democrats.
Fucking what? “Fascist propaganda worked in this election, therefore, supporting genocide is okay”?
Oh. Or are you one of those people who are still saying “You LIBS are just fearmongering!” about Trump?
Maybe you can start parsing out which minority groups have the most power, and then start blaming them too. That might let you scapegoat someone else a little longer, so you postpone holding the people with actual power accountable a little bit longer.
Sorry that you think supporting fascism is okay if you’re only a small part of the support.
So, when leftists don’t vote for the party, they’re being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don’t vote for the Democrats, they’re the helpless victims of fascist propaganda? Cool, I guess we’ve reached the racist, “savior,” trope portion of the liberal coping process. If only those poor minorities hadn’t been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?
So, when leftists don’t vote for the party, they’re being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don’t vote for the Democrats, they’re the helpless victims of fascist propaganda?
No, they’re both doing the same thing, for the same reason. Sorry that minorities being people is such a radical idea for you. If you get me a pedestal, I can stand on it for you to worship me.
If only those poor minorities hadn’t been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?
Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a ‘refutation’ to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities. I pointed out that people voting against their interest means nothing. Sorry that that was too complex for you to parse.
No, they’re both doing the same thing, for the same reason.
Yes, but you’re framing one as victims, while the other you’re treating with contempt. Might want to examine what you’ve internalized that makes you feel that way.
Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a ‘refutation’ to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities.
A) I brought up minority groups abandoning Harris because you brought up how people who didn’t vote for her were betraying minorities. B) I never said Trump wasn’t going to get minorities killed. He’s gonna kill a lot of people, and I’m sure disproportionate numbers of minorities will wind up dead. C) If this many people, across all demographics, decided they were either better off voting for the fascist or indifferent to the fascists victory, what does that tell you about how Democratic leadership is going?
We’re talking voters, dude. No idea why you keep bringing up POWER as if people are incapable of blaming two things at once. The Democrats blew it, no doubt about it.
But anyone that didn’t vote for Harris helped Trump win.
It’s literally the first comment, dude. I detail a huge fucking list of powerful people who fucked up so bad the Democrats lost to one of the least popular Presidents of all time, then ended it with, “Anyway, once we’ve held all those people accountable for letting Trump win, then maybe we can see if there’s any blame left for protesting leftists or apathetic working-class voters.” It’s literally a politicians job to win elections, but this community is full of memes blaming the left because the Democrats suck at their job.
The existence of people more deserving of blame doesn’t absolve the people less deserving of blame for their faults. Stein voters/non-voters are not blameless here.
I despise the Democratic Party. That doesn’t make me less pissed off at the voters who campaigned against her
What the ever loving fuck are you talking about? You think when I said the powerful, i meant Muslims and anti-war protesters who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Harris? Or working-class voters who decided Harris’ shitty economic plan wasn’t worth standing in a poll line? And I guess you must have thought the powerless were the people who spent over a billion dollars campaigning with Mark Cuban? Is that how broken your brain is?
It would seem that they felt that punishing the powerless for Harris’s mistakes was okay.
Seriously Pug? You think that Muslims watching their people get ethnically cleansed aren’t powerless? You think college students getting beaten by cops and accused of antisemitism for protesting a genocide aren’t the powerless? You think people exercising the tiniest amount of control they have over their democracy by withholding their vote means their not the powerless ones? How many groups are willing to scapegoat before you start holding people with actual institutional power accountable?
Your argument is that the powerless shouldn’t be held accountable for the sins of the powerful. Yet simultaneously, you claim that voters punishing American minorities with genocide and a fascist regime is justified, because of the sins of the Dem elite.
Sorry that you think that welcoming genocide is only bad when Dem elites do it, and not when voters ushering in fascism do it.
Yeah, this, “Won’t someone think of the minorities!?!?” shit would carry more weight if minority groups weren’t also abandoning the Democrats. Latino support for the Democratic ticket dropped 8 points between 2020 and 2024. Muslim support dropped 49%. Black support for Harris dropped as well, even if it was mostly among men. And I’m just going by exit polls; I’m not even counting the people who stopped showing up.
Maybe you can start parsing out which minority groups have the most power, and then start blaming them too. That might let you scapegoat someone else a little longer, so you postpone holding the people with actual power accountable a little bit longer.
Fucking what? “Fascist propaganda worked in this election, therefore, supporting genocide is okay”?
Oh. Or are you one of those people who are still saying “You LIBS are just fearmongering!” about Trump?
Sorry that you think supporting fascism is okay if you’re only a small part of the support.
So, when leftists don’t vote for the party, they’re being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don’t vote for the Democrats, they’re the helpless victims of fascist propaganda? Cool, I guess we’ve reached the racist, “savior,” trope portion of the liberal coping process. If only those poor minorities hadn’t been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?
No, they’re both doing the same thing, for the same reason. Sorry that minorities being people is such a radical idea for you. If you get me a pedestal, I can stand on it for you to worship me.
Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a ‘refutation’ to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities. I pointed out that people voting against their interest means nothing. Sorry that that was too complex for you to parse.
Yes, but you’re framing one as victims, while the other you’re treating with contempt. Might want to examine what you’ve internalized that makes you feel that way.
A) I brought up minority groups abandoning Harris because you brought up how people who didn’t vote for her were betraying minorities. B) I never said Trump wasn’t going to get minorities killed. He’s gonna kill a lot of people, and I’m sure disproportionate numbers of minorities will wind up dead. C) If this many people, across all demographics, decided they were either better off voting for the fascist or indifferent to the fascists victory, what does that tell you about how Democratic leadership is going?
Anyway, good luck mulling that stuff over, Pug.
We’re talking voters, dude. No idea why you keep bringing up POWER as if people are incapable of blaming two things at once. The Democrats blew it, no doubt about it.
But anyone that didn’t vote for Harris helped Trump win.
It’s literally the first comment, dude. I detail a huge fucking list of powerful people who fucked up so bad the Democrats lost to one of the least popular Presidents of all time, then ended it with, “Anyway, once we’ve held all those people accountable for letting Trump win, then maybe we can see if there’s any blame left for protesting leftists or apathetic working-class voters.” It’s literally a politicians job to win elections, but this community is full of memes blaming the left because the Democrats suck at their job.
The existence of people more deserving of blame doesn’t absolve the people less deserving of blame for their faults. Stein voters/non-voters are not blameless here.
I despise the Democratic Party. That doesn’t make me less pissed off at the voters who campaigned against her