I was in an incident that led to people complaining about me here and by extension in Ask Lemmy, one which I explained my perspective on elsewhere. Then, when sharing my perspective, I was asked by a certain Blaze to share it in YPTB, only for those in charge there to give what amounted to a signal of disregard for it and to take it elsewhere. Going by their own words, I then shared it in !fediverselore@lemmy.ca as the only close alternative available, which, as a part of their own ārules subtextā, sometimes allows this, and the person, if not all of those who help with YPTB, proceeded to drop by anyways and scold me because āYTPB has specific posting guidelines in the sidebarā.
The implication here is false, at least by my definition of the word āfalseā, and he even alluded to that after it began to be discussed elaborately, albeit before using an appeal to the masses (story of my life) and say āmost people seem to understandā, which ignores consensus of me and the aforementioned Blaze (as much as the āthe truth we all wanted to speakā remark ignores not everyone had that issue). Notice how I responded with āI can spot rules broken by the other personās thread more easily than I can spot rules broken by mineā and got only thumbs down for it and no responses, yet when I actually dissected the rules piece by piece in front of him to point out that any rule I supposedly broke wasnāt there, which even the person who recommended I make the discussion in the first place (the aforementioned Blaze) agreed was a āfair point to be honestā, the mod then delved into the concept of āunspoken rulesā as an excuse for himself and said he didnāt want to ārules-lawyerā, which not only disproves what he said about āspecific posting guidelinesā being āin the sidebarā that supposedly explained what I did wrong, but proved a point I commonly mention about people in different places including here always being uncritical and unwilling to see things for themselves and just taking peoplesā word for things (and about that, to respond to Cypherās last reply, intellectual =/= intelligent). A part of that is it also suggests, by extension, that the quantity of thumbs down you garner is unreliable as consistently meaning anything, unless the rule is actually to apply gladiator logic and say a thumbs down signals mercy, as indicated by the very Roman-esque culture around here. I guess all this time, I was being praised and didnāt realize it?
This idea of āunspoken rulesā and āreading between the linesā seems to be a common theme here because everyone seems to think that concept is valid, and they think that whether youāre akin to an outcast is defined by the norms you follow. This makes me curious to askā¦ hypothetically, if I get all PTB gradings from everyone because I couldnāt read the āunspoken rulesā or anticipate mod discretion, what if I were to go to the places I have authority over and ban everyone who says or has said anything positive or supportive about Luigi Mangione or what he did? Would I be able to accomplish this without being called a PTB? After all, that is how this all started, and again, that would be an āunspoken ruleā on its own that can be chalked up to mod discretion, now wouldnāt it? Those are the terms.
I await your choice.
This reminds me of the āI was just following ordersā defense at Nuremberg. Lay with dogs get fleas. Youāre upholding the status quo of state sanctioned violence and wondering why people have a problem with that. Gee I canāt imagine.
The law binds but does not protect the underclass and protects but not binds the ruling class. The UHC CEO murdered millions by denying healthcare but thatās totally ok because thereās a mountain of paperwork and administration between the CEO and the poor schmuck who died from a lack of healthcare.
We need more Luigiās and less people like you in this world.
Denying help =/= harm.
Anyone who is making the argument that Brian Thompson can be equated to a Nazi has never both read and signed an insurance contract before.
So the ājust following ordersā defense does not apply, especially as a part of all of this is the fact other people are calling for praise for Luigi Mangione and for copycats to happen, which technically means, if anyone, many of you are ājust following ordersā.
No flat out youāre fucking wrong. Those ghouls killed my father. I hope you get to suffer the same fate, like the rest of conservative idiots itās not real until it happens to you.
Brah, Iām sorry that happened to your father. But you canāt just go around saying OP should die just because they disagree with you. Not cool at all.
No, thatās not what I said. I said I hope they get to suffer like I did - watch their loved one be denied proper medical care due to insurance and die from it.
Sorry that hurts your precious sensibilities. Conservatives/liberals lack empathy unless it happens to them.
Thanks for the clarification.
Bold of you to assume Iām conservative just because Iām not advocating for everyoneās idea here of revolution. I canāt speak for your anecdotal experiences, but the idea is new to me they could just kill someoneās father, and, supposing that did happen, that isnāt to say it was Brian Thompson who killed your father. Insurance is not an absolute monarchy.
This is the whole just following orders.
DENYING HEALTHCARE IS MURDER.
You are a conservative even if you donāt think you are.
How would you define a conservative, then?
And how do you think healthcare worked centuries ago? Where would you draw a line between what is acceptable to deny and what isnāt? Like, do I get funded if I have so much as bad eyesight?
Being close to Canada, which is a nation credited with universal healthcare, one of the things you learn is it has become so much of a nightmare to them they have denied immigration to the nation by people with disabilities for five decades now because they ādonāt want burdensā. By everyoneās logic, one might say Canada has committed a 50-year genocide. It goes to show the oddity of not drawing the lines we should.
Centuries ago Iād be dead from the current dental infection Iām dealing with.
Youāre such a fucking chud I donāt even want to waste time with your dumbass.
Most of the universal healthcare countries deny immigration to disabled people because they havenāt paid into their healthcare system via taxes.
Iām blocking your dumbass. Keep wondering why everybody hates you. Chud.
Spoken as if you hadnāt read what I provided.